Sign this petition:
Support Wells Fargo Workers United
Sign this petition:
Sign this petition:
Support Wells Fargo Workers United
Unions have their time and place, unfortunately some older unions become corrupt and end up just funneling money to Republicans/Democrats and related PAC's based on the unions ideological reasoning. If unions were limited to just dealing with the contractual side of things and advocating for the employees they represent I'd be more supportive. I also don't like how some of the bigger unions protect very-under performing employees at the expense of those who excel.
Post ID: @1cho+1mi6dQxF
Not too shocked that someone with the writing skills of an 8th grader has an opposing opinion.
If you want to be taken seriously, you should learn to communicate without relying on over-used urban slang such as “snowflakes”. Also- relying on conversational crutches, such as “lol”, speaks to your nervousness and insecurity.
@1cho maybe corporate America should start trying to be a net good for society rather than a tool of class warfare.
Strike strike strike!!!
Union will stop all the disparate treatment. I am for it. Will hold Wells Fargo accountable and stop their disgusting treatment towards their employees
There seems to be only two acceptable camps - for or against unions. It is possible for someone to be unsure, holding ideas/questions about being for or against at the same time.
The problem is if someone feels railroaded into choosing a side without fully understanding why they should choose that side in reasonable and thoughtful conversation, most likely that someone will just default to whatever involves less drama or banter.
Unionization has a storied history in America. We've seen unions working for and against workers and corporations throughout all of this time.
Whether unionization succeeds or not, the fact that we are having a lot of attention on the topic sends a message that workers at different career/job levels are struggling. That needs to be paid attention to and there are no handouts being asked for. Any worker demands will not impact shareholder value, will not cost the executives much if anything in pay. Even if you shaved a few million from executive compensation packages, that CEO could still wipe their rear using $100 bills for a lifetime easily.
Ultimately, in a perfect world, HR would be enabled by the CEO to address worker issues and come up with a fair comprise that suits everyone. While 100% possible, HR suffers the same fate as workers today, unable to perform their professional functions where in a healthy company recognition and rewards are provided systematically and regularly.
I'm not sure if everyone has the same expectations for unionization, but clearly a change is needed. Because at scale, right now, you'll be very hard pressed to find a single WF team member who feels like they are valued and integral to the company mission.
What is the company mission anyways right? Do we even care at the moment?
Wow never would have guessed one of the rabid pro-WF commenters was actually some libertarian IT sperglord 🙄 He hides his sociopathy so well!
Unionizing is happening, it's just a question of when.
@hsu said, "...and much of it paid to people who fled the state, taking their pension dollars with them."
Sounds like you have a beef with freedom and capitalism rather than unions.
Bet these anti-union people are the same ones who are pi---d that WF ended the 401k match per paycheck. Guess what, a union could get that back. A union could get the catch balance plan back.
But oh, it's got monthly dues! The horror!
One only needs to looks at the state of Illinois to see how much damage Unions do to the bottom line. The state is broke in large part to paying out ridiculous $$ in pensions… and much of it paid to people who fled the state, taking their pension dollars with them. Nothing is free people. And you can unionize but that doesn’t mean the company needs to keep your jobs.
If you NEED a union to get you anything then you’re in the wrong line of work or weak at selecting positions where you will come out ahead.
White Collar IT here. I have 20+ years to go to FRA and I already have a better total retirement package than those I know who belong to any Union who are closer to or have already retired. Congratulations on not knowing your own self-worth or being able to advocate for yourself in Corporate America. I bet the diehard Pro-Unionites posting here also give the gov an interest free loan every year to get that “fat tax return”. You certainly don’t seem to be able to come to terms with the fact that there are people who don’t require paying people to define their own work environment.
There may be success in certain roles of the bank becoming unionized, but i wouldn’t expect the entirety of the bank to be union.
Also, I know of a union that literally took hostages and destroyed a bunch of property in their work place because reasons. These employees were compensated well above national avg BTW. But hey, what's a little hostage taking among enemies?
I guess we could start with some of their adherents being s-xist and prone to stereotype people. 😐
We will unionize WF watch!
Ask an anti-union poster on this board to articulate how/why they developed the negative views that they have.
They won't be able to.
It really is just sheltered men that are afraid of unions for no reason. They start stammering and inventing rationale for hating unions but none of it is based in reality, just repeated, made-up vague statements.
Aren't you tired of fighting to keep yourself down? Seems exhausting.
Post ID: @dpj+1mi6dQxF
Goodness. Who, here, wants to be viewed unfavorably by YOU?? 😂
Your sentence: “I will never agree to unions and will look unfavorably towards anyone that does” should be re-written properly as “I will never agree to unions and will look unfavorably towards anyone who does”.
“Who” is always used to refer to people. “That” is always used when talking about inanimate objects (that computer, that piece of paper…)
Just thought you should be able to write intelligently if you plan on looking unfavorably towards others.
My family members, who belonged to unions, are retiring with:
I watched unions destroy my home town. Nothing but lazy, incompetent people that demanded more than their worth. All those jobs now in Mexico and China. I will never agree to unions and will look unfavorably towards anyone that does.
So many rednecks afraid of unions on this board...
I bet I know which hub most are at
Signed!!! Let’s go!!!
In general if something is bad for your employer it is good for you…the peasants and worker bees. I’m all for it. F these overpaid executives who have done nothing but ranked morale along with the stock price for the past few years.
Oh, I almost forgot…..F&CK RTO!!!
Oh no! Not...a money grab from your employer!
I'd much rather wait in line to be laid off or outsourced while the company intentionally makes my working conditions miserable enough to make me quit, and receive my annual 2% raise in the middle of 6+% inflation. I've been assured I'm a "rock star", you see.
Hilarious! This isn’t the 1960’s. Unions had its place and its purpose at one time. Now it’s only a money grab. Go be an electrician or plumber if you want your union.
Who caves first, the board troll or the union troll?
The problems with the current bank leadership and culture will not be solved by adding unions. In fact, if you look at union impact in other industries, they will only add to our problems by reducing career mobility and keeping more deadwood on the payroll.
Boy, they've sure got every type of headcase out here shilling today. Even one of the insufferable "everything I don't like is emotionally-based, unlike my purely grounded and logical beliefs"-types. tips fedora
Sure, let's not organize and instead focus on the totally reasonable goal of (checks notes) reforming policy across the entire financial sector, eliminating systemic corruption, and overhauling regulation. Weird that unions in other industries are successful in securing higher pay and better benefits instead of devoting their time to overhauling half of society 🤔
You'd rather continue being loyal to Wells thugs that have nothing but contempt for you?
Ok, your choice...
Most people's opinions on unions are based on their own biases, not actual experience.
Look at the very existence of this website. Sure, it exists to post layoff info but that's hardly what gets posted. Most posts are grievances that get "that happened to me too" replies.
Yet these same people have an automatic emotional response of "unions are bad!".
Working at Wells is horrible but doesn't have to be. Unions absolutely give workers better conditions than they'd otherwise have. But you're so loyal to your big brother, dad, or whoever it was that lied to you about belonging to a union.
So, I guess that means you'll just keep posting your complaints to this anonymous board (without resolution, ever) all the while patting yourself on the back for pushing away a union that would help you.
Yep, you anti-union guys sure are the smart ones... 🙄
All I remember about unions is from my dad who worked in manufacturing from the 1970's-2000. The union allowed higher pay to workers for a short time, then the corporation evolved and changed the pay based on different metrics (hurting older workers who couldn't keep up, etc) and moved jobs where labor was cheaper. Union leaders also became corrupt, often choosing to side with the corporation on many decisions to save their own costs.
The justification for the union in the link provided seems light in detail and relies too much on the emotional reaction of bad headlines. If this is a real thing, it should be very well thought out and explicit in detail, focusing on the worker not on the headlines.
Ultimately for me it feels too centered on feelings. There are a lot of people unhappy at work and a lot of people who question their employer's actions. I'm not getting it, not understanding why I should sign it yet.
If there was a petition to sign now, it would target improvements to policy and oversight across the financial sector. The lack of (or weakened) regulations and systemic corruption is the problem. Fix that and we'd see the working conditions feel a whole lot better at the bank.
sign up to line a union thug's pocket, no thanks. The admin should take this deal down. #ADMIN
White collar IT here, signed.
Thanks for the link.
Every possible job is already going there as fast as they can possible do so. How are you not seeing this?
It’s not McCool to join a union as a banker
Joining a white collar union would make one nuclear to any other white collar job they ever apply for
Ge-z ppl next time you think WF is a tough place to work go try working as a roofer or any other physical labor job for a day
Wether you think unionization would be beneficial or not, Hudson Yards brought this upon themselves. No one was thinking about doing this until they started intentionally tanking morale and harassing employees.
In addition to not submitting unwelcome content, the following behaviors are prohibited on TheLayoff.com: