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Breathing difficulties

I’ve been in KSA for around 6 months. Been sneezing and sometimes wheezing a bit, and recently been prescribed an inhaler. Doc says it is my body acclimatising to a new environment but despite being pressed he wouldn’t confirm it’s due to air pollution. Which we both knew it is.

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Post ID: @OP+1r2taoc7

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https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/5-most-polluted-cities-in-the-world-in-2023/dammam-saudi-arabia/slideshow/100917020.cms

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Post ID: @Rlbg+1r2taoc7

@8unc+1r2taoc7

Utterly amazed that study got through the government sensors.

It should be mandatory reading for any expat prior to signing up to Aramco.

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Post ID: @eqqb+1r2taoc7

Only half the inhalable particulate you are breathing = “sand from the desert”. Another study found online 2023 lists Damnam as the #1 most polluted city. In the world. Kanser4Kids
https://discovery.kaust.edu.sa/en/article/6644/anthropogenic-air-pollution-impacts-health-and-climate-in-the-middle-east/

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Post ID: @8unc+1r2taoc7

QA is just a joke in KSA. QED. The only area where attention is REALLY attended to, is wasta payments to the 5% brigade. That and PR, spin and marketing BS.

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Post ID: @5tnh+1r2taoc7

The construction and all associated tasks in KSA is usually sub-standard. I feel it is due to cost cutting and the practice of accepting the lowest bid (always). You get what you pay for, usually.

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Post ID: @5jbl+1r2taoc7

And also the recent event where excess chlorine was released into the pool which hospitalised some kids.

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Post ID: @5hpt+1r2taoc7

The company had 'clear' plans to build an indoor pool in Jebel Heights which didn't materialise as promised. This would have precluded the issues of breathing in polluted air and bacterial sand while exercising. I did hear from several people there were many problems with the pool. Sharp protruding objects on the pool walls with people cutting themselves, lights and it's wiring falling into the pool and the floor of the poolsides surrounds sinking weekly! So, now you're dealing if the air quality and safety standards of the pool!

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Post ID: @4zzy+1r2taoc7

The guy who left with health problems and died could have died due to other non related factors. He could have got cancer living elsewhere. And that’s how Aramco plays it. They and the government don’t allow scientific statistical studies that would verify the cause. Then for each case, they can ignore it, deny it.

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Post ID: @4dsk+1r2taoc7

I had a colleague whose kids were regulars at the club, swimming back and forth every week. He was proud of them but seemed to have entirely missed (or chose to ignore) the damage likely being done to them in the long term. It’s bad enough for us adults so can only imagine what the air does to a growing body and brain.

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Post ID: @3bgd+1r2taoc7

No doubt the the polluted air will have an accumlative impact in time. It's there and you can smell it every day. However, the extensive exposure to dust in the air will likely to contribute to rising respiratory and other diseases, including asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. So anyone engaged in outdoor sport need to seriously reconsider what they're doing, especially if it is your kids.

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Post ID: @3jxt+1r2taoc7

Dust and pollution outside and probably black mold inside if you live in one of those old patched up houses. You can only do so much. If you cannot get out of there just yet, then at least eat as clean as possible so it doesn't aggravate or trigger cancers and such.

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Post ID: @3cud+1r2taoc7

One sad news from last week, 9 years in Aramco, resign after start having health issues, five years later pass away, you never know how all this pollution works within your body.

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Post ID: @3idd+1r2taoc7

This is normal, JHAH will just pump you with antihistamines, they won’t tell the truth as that gets reported into a KPI and makes them look bad.

It’s actually getting worse as per the data which is available if you look online. The issue with Dhahran is its downstream front the prevailing northern winds that deposit industrial sh--e from places like Jubail industrial city (worlds largest polluting ecosystem) RT, and Damman. It gets far worse come late March/April when the shamals start that mixes up the toxic waste with sand which travels 100s of miles… that won’t end until November time.

A few tips that might help;

  1. Buy purifiers for your house. I have 6 running 24/7. But good quality products, Philips have a very good selection. Change the filters every 6 weeks, good ones can be washed.
  2. Fit the 3M filtration mesh over the AC master inlets/outlets of your substandard Aramco AC system. They will turn grey after 2 weeks and black after 4. The industrial emissions craap in the air is plain to see from this, it’s quite remarkable.Change every 6 weeks.
  3. Tape your windows shut from the outside and inside. Cover up all small holes around the frames, my ones are like Swiss cheese.
  4. Monitor air quality daily, fit an internal monitor if you like. Many expats do this. You can achieve high quality air in your home if you take the above steps.
  5. Wear a mask on days when pollution is elevated and limit time outdoors. Ignore the locals and ignorant who say there is no problem, they are brainwashed.
  6. Do not exercise outdoors ever - even on good days like today it’s still 10x safe limits…
  7. Pray to Allah/God/whoever you can, that you won’t leave KSA with cancer.

Good luck!

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Post ID: @1dlt+1r2taoc7

Pro tip: your apartment/house no longer has an electrostatic filter. They took those out about five years ago and replaced them with "permanent" filters, then they nailed the vent cover closed! This means that the air inside your place is bad whenever the air outside is bad ... which is most of the time.

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Post ID: @1cgp+1r2taoc7

Been in the ME since the beginning of the 90s and KSA for over 20 years. Everybody I know, including me, developed ne allergies while out there.

It's not pollution, what you are breathing now is 1000 better than what we were breathing in the last century. It has to do with the dust and sand from the desert. Especially during the shammals. You need to keep your AC filters clean as well as invest in a HAEPA filter.

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