Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

You might be the problem, not Oracle

If really nothing good comes out of your time working at any company really, I'd question if this rather has to do something with personality. I worked at great and also mediocre companies in my career so far - with Oracle being in the mediocre category - and always had some great times in each of those companies. I left a job after short time when I found out I cannot be happy in that position.
And if someone is really unhappy in their job and still stays for over 10 or 15 years, sorry take your fate in your own hands and change something.

A good point by @5cjh+1tdY0l6H.

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I just quit after 5 years because of this post. No job, no notice, sent an email to HR and my boss and told them what they can do with the job. I’m suppose to fly out on Monday to a clients, don’t care. Thanks for setting me straight!

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Post ID: @Bbhg+1trHXE3f

I dont post often. Talked to a buddy who wasted 15 years at O. He left like 18 mos ago for another company. His skills from Oracle, useless. Asked him if he still talks to anyone.....no one. Why? He hates O for treating him like cr-p for so long. We can read this forum for days and it's the same story over and over. O is a bad place to work. It's not the work, it's the people (mgmt). If you're mgmt at Oracle, you're basically among the worst in the world. Period. Why do the managers stay? Cause in a real tech mgmt job they would be outed in seconds for being useless and skilless. Period.

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Post ID: @jwlv+1trHXE3f

Maybe I didn't come in contact with the real tech folks at Oracle. I was in a gbu for a while. I left Oracle few years back. Not one of the skills I gained there can be used today. Everything I learned is basically useless. My management never cared about career development. Heck. They never cared about anyone growing. Most of them were useless. Overall, it was a terrible experience and one I regret staying in and yes, I am to blame as well for staying. I just didn't realize how fake something was. Total smoke and mirrors show for the most part. I am not even sure if one guy knew the most basic of IT terms. The one group I worked with were from the midest. Nice, but their desire to grow was gone and they were living check to check. It was pathetic and sad. Acquisitions actually have destroyed morale at Oracle. Mainly cause the acquired folks come in and are the hot shots for all of two seconds until someone with an ounce of technical experienece realizes they legit know like one niche tool that .0000001% of the populations needs or uses. It makes me laugh today. 5/6 people at oracle are not working in tech. They're high paid secretaries. hahahahahah. they legit could be replaced by teenagers. Just brutal.

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Post ID: @cuqn+1trHXE3f

Free speech on X
And now he’s buying goggle!
No wonder he recently backed out of cloud. If he bought Oracle there would be no more me in:
Oracle manager: “It’s not you, it’s me.”

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Post ID: @cdfx+1trHXE3f

Oracle manager: “You’re RIF’d, and you outta here today,”
Employee: “ Why me? What did I do to deserve this?”
Oracle manager: “It’s not you, it’s me.”

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Post ID: @bkas+1trHXE3f

“ You might be the problem, not Oracle “

This could be true, depending who is the audience the comment is addressed to.

If a worker bee reads it, it has no relevance, however, if mid management is reviewing the comment, eight times out of ten it is correct. If it is upper management, well, let’s make that a 10 for 10!

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Post ID: @3upm+1trHXE3f

The funnier thing in my time at Oracle was when people got promoted and they knew darn well they were nowhere near qualified, but went high and mighty like they deserved it. Those people cracked me up. My SVP was a woman and she rarely promoted men, ever. The men that happened to come alongside her, mostly came from leadership in acquisitions. She's still there and will leave scorched earth in her path as she hopefully leaves soon. Oracle is notorious for promoting people that are favored vs people that actually can get the job done. The GBUs are the worst cause many of them were buddies or had cliques before Oracle bought them. And man, there are some sheeple all over O that they literally realize what they do is totally useless and not needed and get all jazzed up about doing work a monkey could do. As I was leaving some woman was all jazzed up about some project that legit my 8 year old nephew could do. I was on the phone with her and knew I was giving my two weeks and she's like, let's just dig into, get really in the weeds, really get some output so "SVP" can look good and we can put the GBU out there. I said, "no, this sounds terrible....oh and by the way....I'm quitting in two weeks. Good luck" with your useless career..." I dont know. Maybe it's cause I know my time on earth is limited and wasting on so many useless things that require no skill and have no real purpose makes me feel like a loser. Kudos to those that get jollies off coloring excel cells and copy and pasting. hahahahahaha.

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Post ID: @2bvh+1trHXE3f

@1mpm+1trHXE3f. Good post. Promoting favorites instead of those qualified was hard for me to understand because I’m not from the same stock, either. It was explained to me that those promoting have much to hide so they promote those they can control. It is really harmful to the company on many levels.
They are promoted to a position of trust with no real accountability. They aren’t smart enough to realize the consequences are not going to be good. Too many people know and they talk. In fact, recent rumor is Oracle travel is being used for personal participation in offshore shell entities. Easier to track than most people think. Feel sorry for their families and other innocent individuals that will be caught up in a huge public scandal .

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Post ID: @1ben+1trHXE3f

Comment about isolated incident is spot on. It's definitely on Oracle. Granted I worked in a much smaller unit and the issues and culture couldve very well just been those people, they were still Oracle employees. If you're doing great things, loyal, busting your behind to make Oracle/unit successful and people want to tear you down with rumors, promoting people they favor, or like what happened in my unit, promoting the new shiny acquisition and being best friends with them in case their product actually made some ba----g revenue. You don't see it these days, with people staying 10-20 years and hoping things will improve. People now will just take the loss and move on. The culture I experienced in my time at Oracle was totally toxic. I didn't come from a huge tech background and get this, actually worked non--desk jobs where you have to work as a team and trust to get things done; what I saw in my last years at Oracle was just very incompetent people being sneaky. I witnessed like grown men, close to their late 60's, spreading toxic lies and then harassing people in private. There is a word for men like that. The women I came across that were bad, they just put their favorites into roles. it didn't matter if the person was competent, skilled, or whatever. Looking back, I couldn't really realize what was happening. I realize my specific unit was just a very bad example of culture. It was more or less high school. It was immature. When I look back at those "adults" now, I see them as pathetic. People who aren't needed in business. I see them as petty. I see them as people that aren't from my stock of people. Where I am from you just don't cr-p on good people who you need to work with. I also kinda came to the conclusion none of them probably played any kind of team sport, where you actually had to trust people. Since my time there, just about everyone I knew either left or retired. The people still there are there cause they would never get hired in tech today, they're unskilled, have weak resumes and even weaker personas. I think there is a lot to be said about being a good person and leading with morals and integrity. That just doesnt happen at Oracle, but it doesnt happen at other companies as well.

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Post ID: @1mpm+1trHXE3f

With an isolated event, you may be correct. I certainly can recall posts that reflect a sense of entitlement. That said, the very existence of this thread, and the constant theme being repeated over and over again, all attest to the probability that Oracle, its culture and practices, are the primary source of concern.

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