It would be even better if they let us volunteer for it. I know I’m not the only one who’d be more than happy to raise my hand and step away.
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"Is there proof this has happened with the expected outcome (person volunteers and they are considered part of JE activity, packaged out, and live happily every after)?"
Yes, we had 2 in our group come to us and ask and they were in the next round. HR was never involved until paperwork was submitted so it all depends on your manager not being an a-s
you can ABSOLUTELY tell your manager that if they are required to let someone go you would be willing to take the hit.
Your manager and team will mistreat you, ware you down intentionally so you act like you want to leave and put your name in for stuff like layoffs when in reality you could have a chance of getting moved to another role with higher pay and better people in which you can help Cigna succeed and many money. Many managers are survivors and will abuse whoever they want out of the way so they get what they want. There are great managers out there but I’ve learned many are the lowest hanging fruit and only get ahead by being complete abusers, liars, and bullies along with a toxic support system that ensures change doesn’t happen. I wouldn’t put your name in for layoffs unless you are 100% sure you have no future at Cigna.
I have a few friends who put their name in the hat for layoffs and when the next round hit their team, they got laid off. Managers have hearts, all things equal they’d rather lay off someone who requested it than someone who didn’t.
I don’t notice hiring around me in IFP this year. Most of it is internal movement that I see. A lot of the stuff my team does could be done by vendors or band 2 but there is a pretty good old guard in place to make sure it doesn’t happen. At least for now.
I’m surprised there are not more layoffs in IFP, they just keep hiring more people. But I think at some point they will want to do away with that segment like they did MA bc I can’t imagine it is profitable.
I don’t think they’d do something like that even if you request. They may hate somebody else on your team more and lay them off. Also, in IFP a lot of movement is to cover tracks of mismanagement so people can’t do anything about abuse/constructive term or they just need to shut somebody up. My last move was because they lied about the product I worked on for 2 years to not promote me. Since I’m out of that role I can’t really do anything about it except never quit and do a good job to annoy them, which is actually worse for them
In the long run. Anyway don’t quit unless I have something lined up.
Look for another job but hold out for your bonus. Get the bonus then quit, no notice:)
Seems to me that would be a prompt to wait you out until you quit rather than to JE you and pay severance. You made it clear you want out, if you are miserable long enough, I would think they would expect you would eventually walk,
That seems weird (not the desire to volunteer) but that HR would view this as a JE activity instead of resigning when the next round comes.
If HR would view this as a resignation then the individual wouldn't be packaged out.
Am I wrong?
Is there proof this has happened with the expected outcome (person volunteers and they are considered part of JE activity, packaged out, and live happily every after)?
You CAN volunteer.
Talk to your manager about being laid off IF there is a layoff which they have to pick someone from your team.
Then send a summary of your discussion to the HR person who hired you for the role and copy your manager.