Thread regarding Career Education Corp. layoffs

You have to pass everybody to get more classes

I have found if you hold the students actually accountable, you will get less classes to teach. They won't tell you this, it just comes out that way. If you just pass everyone, you get more classes to teach. Has anyone else experienced this?

Yup, noticed this as well, @PCzDOIV-5pis. It's despicable. The mighty dollar is more important than actual education we are supposed to be providing. Is there anything we can do about this?

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To Camden: What do you think this is, a college or some psych rehab facility????

How about, does CTU have anything in place that weeds these parasites out so they don't waste federal tax money? NO. CTU will do EVERYTHING in their power to make sure these vets keep signing up for more classes. Students get carefully placed into classes with known, easy, pushover instructors who will do whatever CTU demands they should do to "support the student and their success". Read, lower your standards, teach basic middle school stuff, and then give them an A for showing up and trying. They will create Colorado campus based classes for one or two students per class so these students can get their max benefits to pay for rent and go hunting while taking some joke online class to keep their GPA up (students get more monthly $$ if they take at a minimum 1 campus class instead of just 2 online classes).

THAT is how CTU is helping these students Camden. By making a college education a joke affair across the board. By making a CTU degree worthless for even those students who had a chance at getting something out of their classes.

CTU is a giant pyramid scheme designed as a nice job security stop over with good wages for the massive and bloated administrative apparatus Jabba-the-hutting itself through life.

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To jpss and others,

Does Colorado Tech have services for veterans and their concerns? Does it have psychological services, social services, tutoring, mentoring?

In other words, does anyone care?

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To jpss,

I would have to agree with your assessment. Most of them I have in classroom are "disabled" but talk of all the hunting, fishing, skiing, partying they do and how they want to get a full time job and collect free money. WTF, that isn't "disabled." I've come to believe "PTSD" means free money for life to most and has overshadowed the true medical issues. 95% of the military I get as students don't do anywhere near college level and don't even try. They coast as you say. They are different than the men I served with. Most of us tried hard not to be labeled disabled. Now its a badge of honor! The free money for college system is all screwed up and that's where the government should shut off the tap and save money.

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To -hlhg: Depending on the type of military aid they get they don't have to pay an F back. The military considers an 'F' still 'progress towards a degree'. WTF?

In my experience, the online students I have also have a campus class somewhere in Colorado and they then can get some ridiculous sum for 'living allowance' that way. One student ranted that he needed his 'rent money' and it was more than 2500 per month that he 'makes' by going to school. The student used the term 'makes' in his email. What I have been piecing together is that these students can live rent free pretty much as long as they are in school. They keep their GPA up by mixing and matching 'easy' classes and so they can coast through school, not do a darn thing, and get their life subsidized by the feds. My tax money. They make me sick.

Thank you for your service? I stopped thinking and saying that. I'm now convinced our military is made up of 80% people who had a choice between enlisting or going to jail. Losers, all of them.

Because guess what? The smart, accomplished military cats? They don't go to CTU. We get the scum.

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Can anyone explain why so many veterans just do 1 assignment all class and just flunk? Do they get paid as long as they just do 1 assignment? Is that the new educational benefits for military. Seems a ripoff on the taxpayer. Where is the accountability?

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To 4zdk,

Yes I know some that have graduated with PHD's and some are actually teaching. Its crazy when you compare to a real college. These are "For Profit College" degrees, nothing more. The ones who get them fall into 4 categories:

  1. They were getting paid from some Federal free money source so they just keep going

  2. They get paid more at their job and the job doesn't care if its a real PHD.

  3. They plan on teaching and they can make more for the PHD.

  4. They made a big mistake and now wonder how to put lipstick on the degree in the real world.

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If you want to be super depressed, try teaching some of their 'doctoral' classes. OMG. OMG. OMG. It's a giant farce. These students graduate with actual doctorate degrees! Kid you not. I quit after 2 quarters and I don't have CTU on my resume or LinkedIn profile. So embarrassed to have even been part of this.

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I collect the money and just pass as many as I can. Many do nothing, so its hard. The degree is worthless, so I don't feel bad. They didn't do their research when signing up for college, so its on them. Honestly, I don't know where they get the students I have, they are the most ignorant ghetto people I've ever seen. Sick all the time, or so they say and never do anything on time or proper. To expect its like a real college, is foolish. You work with what your given, or you won't be given classes. Now that I pass everyone, I get max classes all the time. Its how they keep the flow of passing students through.

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I stopped accepting teaching assignments with CTU and AIU because of this schizophrenic attitude towards grading. The rubrics you have to use are so 'flexible' that you can drive a truck through them.

Students are used to getting good grades from professors who have clearly given up and so when you actually try to grade according to what is considered acceptable work at other institutions you end up dealing with an email expletive_storm from both ends, students and administrators, because the large number of Ds and Fs in my classes. These students (business program) can't write. Period. There is no logical flow to anything they write. No structure. No analysis. 90% of the students in my classes should have not graduated from high school and somehow they did. The worst part was these students trying to waive their 3.89 GPA in my face as if that was some reason to give them an A. I sent an email to the Lead and showed them the horrible student work, the student email with the 3.89 and just asked HOW? I got nothing back.

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Post ID: @2tna+PIKQIoJ

This has not been my experience.

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