I was laid off last year during the GOM/Deepwater merger. I applied for unemployment but was denied. Does anyone have advice that might help me to get approved. I had 26 years with Chevron. I have a family and a mortgage. The money will help while I look for a job.
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This is a very old topic from 2018. But, may e it’s being resurrected because of the impending layoffs we will soon see again later in 2020. If you were laid off from Chevron and received your severance, you can apply for UI benefits and will NOT be denied by Chevron. If the OP or anyone else says they were denied, my best guess is that you applied incorrectly. You must have not answered one the questions the right way. Do remember one thing, there are two forms of severances. One form pays severance over time and the other pays severance as a lump sum. Chevron pays the lump sum severance. This single payment lump sum DOES NOT disqualify you to start unemployment benefits immediately. So when you file for UI benefits from your State, answer the questions with care. Make sure you complete your application correctly.
If you get severance, is it rounded up to the nearer year of service? (Eg. does 10.5 years become 11 years) or how does that work? Anyone know from past experience?
@pltf, Maybe what you say makes sense, because it may be Chevron are the ones getting your UI benefits denied or delayed until you’ve signed off on the waiver papers to get your severance check. Who knows? In my case, I was laid off in Houston in 2016 and I applied for UI benefits online, immediately after my official last day on the payroll. I received my unemployment benefits without a hitch. I also answered “no” to the severance question, affirming that I did not get any severance from my employer. At the time I answered that question, I was truthful. My waiver papers had not yet arrived in the mail for my signature and I knew I’d be given 60 days to consider signing them or not. So, I think it depends on when and where you apply for unemployment benefits. Sometimes things go without a hitch and sometimes you get some static. I think the faster you apply online (not in person), the better chances you have to collect right away.
You need to wait first to get your severance package, and then after you have received the package and cashed in the check, only then apply for unemployment. If you get money while getting unemployment your paycheck will get deducted or may get zero $. So first get the severance and deposit it and then apply.
"If your are" an unemployed butthurt loser, you should not be questioning it. Go back to school. Pay attention this time.
Here’s a statistic for you: Twice as many contractors or freelancers are likely to file for unemployment than traditional employees. As such, a greater percentage of these types of workers are denied UI benefits. If your are a contractor and legitimately “laid off”, always appeal if your UI benefits application is denied.
Total BS @4tmg. Take your fake news to CNN, troll.
2isa got the attention of the Chevroid lifers. The bloated white underbelly of Chevron management and their gofers will backstab and push the competent newest employees out to feed the beast and protect their fat retirement. I've listened to their bragging about railroading employees with PIPs and then fighting their unemployment benefits.
If you people can work for 26 years and not be able to save anything do you still think working for cvx is such a good thing. Maybe you might earn more working in a garage or roughnecking. You are certainly not winners in life.....big losers, yes.
3jkv, You are correct in most of your analysis except that you are gravely mistaken on the status of 2vvf. He is not posting of others who were laid off due to being nonproductive, unqualified, overpaid non-working employees. He is referring to himself. It is extremely clear from his tone and previous easily identifiable comments. So sad, I know but many had to go and many have no talents and skills. It's the honest truth. Sure. a few valuable token employees went with the mix, but most were useless. It was long overdue to clean house, cut out the deadwood. 2vvf and 2isa are two obvious victims and are sitting home whining like little babies with nowhere to go and nothing to do but post venom on their mommie's PC in their mommie's basement as they have no life, no job, no future, no prospects.... nothing.
Error on my part...keep ugly comments to yourself. They will be ignored.
The last comment is really sad. It is unfortunate that there are supposedly professional people on this site that take pleasure in spewing venom. The biggest insult is that Chevron laid off nonproductive, unqualified, overpaid employees. Well, guess what your day will come when you are included as a person who was laid off. When that day comes will you be described in the same manner as you have described others. No job is forever enjoy it while you can an hopefully you are not shown Chevron’s revolving for of unemployed former employees. Bye the way, ugly replies to this post are needed. Save the venom for yourself. In other words, grow up.
-2kqs, go back to watching tv. Chevron has nothing to gain and lots to lose by messing with ex-employee’s rightful benefits. Chevron already gained by off-loading the employees they figured were overpaid, unproductive or troublesome.
You people are in fantasy land to think chevron would not pull this stunt. A bit like giving a 25 year employee 45 minutes to pack their bags and be escorted out the door. I have heard similar stories at Dell where long term employees were denied similar benefits
Please, 2isa. You know of no such Chevron managers. Nobody at Chevron has anything to gain by denying a laid off employee of their TWC unemployment benefits. Those UI payments don’t come directly out of Chevron’s pockets anyway. The company only pays into a state managed fund dependent on the number of employees on the payroll within the State. Anyone you claim purposely blocking legitimate UI benefits is subject to losing their job at the very least, and that’s something I’m sure no manager is going to risk. If you were to aledge that some corrupt managers railroaded several employees into getting laid off, I’d be the first in back that assertion. So, stop spreading untruths. That’s a job for trolls and morons.
I know of corrupt managers that file false reports to the TWC which often disqualify unemployment benefits. There is an incentive, on top of the bullying CVX managers with the full support of HR get away with. That’s why HR at Chevron stands fo human remains.
If you don't have any savings after 26 yrs then you needed to find a better job anyway.
OP, If you can survive on other sources of income (savings, severance, etc.) it would be wise to wait the 52 weeks before taking UI benefits. Why? The year of severance, your taxable income will be high since you get your severance right away. UI is taxable income and by taking it when you have no other significant income that will put you in a lower tax bracket and save tax $. I started my UI after waiting 52 weeks and it was taxed at 15% vs the 30%+ that it would have been taxed at if I took it right away. I think my tax savings came in around $2000. Not bad, if you can wait.
The advise presented here is good, but for me, I answered “No” to the severance question. I actually answered that question honestly, because I applied for UI benefits right away, as soon as I was officially separated from Chevron, but not having yet received my severance package. It took 2 weeks after separation to get the FedEx envelope with the waiver papers and I held out from signing them for almost 3 more weeks. Therefore, when I applied for TWC UI benefits, I did not lie about having received a severance payment. I applied online and thus avoided the possibility of other questions by an interviewer. I applied after work hours to avoid any other contingency. My application was approved quickly and within 2 weeks, I got my first check in the mail. By the third weekly payment, it was direct deposited to my checking account. Never in the 6 months did I get a phone call from TWC because I only provided them with a physical and email address. I was asked to provide them with proof of job search only once during that time, around the 4th month of having received my UI payments. No claw backs and no questions. The personnel at TWC are backlogged with work. Answer the questions intelligently online and provide them bare bones contact information. They won’t have time to bother you.
-1jqj is correct, severance pay does not disqualify anyone from receiving benefits but it does delay your receiving it for the amount of time it is meant to cover, in OP case it would be 52 weeks though! Actually what Chevron pays you is not really "severance pay" but an incentive compensation or payment for signing its waiver agreement not to sue. Severance is a payment an employee is eligible to receive when they get laid-off with their last paycheck. As you know Chevron employees have to wait until they are actually terminated to sign the agreement and then wait the 7 day waiting period to become eligible for the compensation and then receive payment up to 2 weeks later. But if TWC gets into their head that you received severance it is tough to get them to change their minds. The FIRST appeal at the APPEAL TRIBUNAL is CRITICAL. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME YOU GET TO PRESENT EVIDENCE AND CORRECT THEIR ERRORS. If you do not want to wait then go with a lawyer to the FIRST APPEAL TRIBUNAL HEARING. All of the other TWC appeals just review the same recording and see if the first hearing office was reasonable in making his decision, it does not even have to be the CORRECT decision! TWC is MORE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THEIR BACK SIDES THAN ANYTHING ELSE. A Chevron friend of mine said the wrong thing to them over the phone more than a year after receiving her UI benefits and they are trying to claw it back from her. OP, as I said if you have any mind to appeal it, PUT YOUR BEST CASE FORWARD FIRST TIME!
Lying on your unemployment application is not advisable and there is no reason to. Unemployment fraud is a criminal offense that you do not want on your record, even though it seems petty. I believe that one time severance payment, correctly noted below, does not disqualify anyone from receiving unemployment benefits. I answered all of the questions honestly and did not have to lie, including YES to the severance that we all received. 6 months UI, no problem. There was a delay, due to the severance. It must be some other reason you were denied.
Maybe the problem that led to your denial of UI benefits had to do with the question on the application dealing with “severance payment”. All laid off employees received a severance payoff from Chevron, but this one-time settlement is often confused with another kind of severance that smaller businesses pay their laid off personnel. When I completed my Texas UI benefits application online back in 2016, I answered “No” to having been paid or currently receiving severance payment(s). My application was accepted on the spot and I started getting my UI payments without interruption for 6 months. Look into whether your application was denied because the misunderstanding of the type of “severance” you received from Chevron. You may be able to solve the problem by visiting your local State unemployment office and taking all your documents with you. Severances paid in full is not a reason for the State to delay or deny benefits.
OP, getting your UI application denied is not unusual or unheard of. It happens, but if you are laid off for ‘lack of work’, as Chevron would document your case, you need to reapply or appeal the denial of benefits. You are definitely entitled to receive up to 6 months if UI benefits from your State. If you inquire again and are denied once again, seek the help of an attorney or local law clinic. This should be a simple and fast case for anyone to get resolved quickly.