Thread regarding Universal Technical Institute Inc. layoffs

UTI enrollment continues to drop (but at a slower pace)

"Lower student population levels as we began 2018 and fewer new student starts during the period resulted in a decline of 5.2% in our average undergraduate full-time student enrollment to 10,823 students for the six months ended March 31, 2018. We started 3,135 students during the six months ended March 31, 2018, which was a decrease of 3.5% from the prior year comparable period."

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1261654/000126165418000020/uti-3311810q.htm

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We didnt want to get involved in comitting to any tuition repayment. And would not commit to UTI’s TRIP program. I figured that I would work a tech an average of 160 hours a month and pay them an additional 320/mo because they had loans. I had no commitment and didnt have to keep track of their loan payments, they did. The UTI rep form Scottsdale made it sound like their grads were unable to properly budget for their loans and would just use the extra pay to live on and default on their loans.

There must be some sort of metric they have to meet to keep a job and that includes employeers having written commitments to loan payments. We dont make contracts with employees and would rather just pay extra. Aparently that is not good enough for them. I have over 100 entry level tech jobs available right now and they are not interested in placing anyone with us because of our stance on TRIP. Oh well, their loss and their students loss as well.

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Post ID: @TMg0Z5x-1xfg

Summer and others, thanks for sharing. I have connections that are willing to listen. You can send me information including screenshots.

Thank you for adding your experience with UTI and TRIP, anonymous. Terrible experience it must have been, sounds like UTI missed out on a good opportunity there. Obviously, they are feeling the pressure to deliver on the promises their admissions reps made to students and parents who so happily signed up for $23,000 to $50,000 in loans (and I'm taking federal, private and plus). As I recall a student once telling me about him taking out loans "it's ok because someone else is going to pay for them" and me responding with a "no, where did you hear that" admissions. I can't imagine any employer seriously willing to pay that much back in loans. I wish students, parents and more employers start sharing their TRIP experiences. Especially any former students with loan payments coming up but with no one to pay for them.

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Post ID: @TMg0Z5x-1pmf

I tried to hire some students and get UTI to refer students to me. They basicly told me that if I was not willing to repay the student loans, I would get no referrals. I explained to the lady that we pay better starting wages and I would bump a graduate 2$ per hour to help with tuition. She would have no part of it unless I would agree to be a TRIP employer.

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Post ID: @TMg0Z5x-nlr

By the way, I can't blame people working at UTI for not saying anything or whistle blowing. There's that fear. I had it too, I was afraid of repercussions. Getting fired or getting bad references that could have followed me everywhere after. Plus, I never felt I had any solid evidence about this TRIP and communication between reps and students, save for a few screenshots. I let it go and just quit. I know I was not the only one concerned.

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Post ID: @TMg0Z5x-wwc

Dismal numbers. UTI is truly on life support. I can't imagine how unbearable it must be to be a UTI rep and a financial aid advisor. The pressure must be extreme. Reps enrolling students, and financial aid advisors pressured into acting like telemarketers every week to avoid having these kids and parents cancel. From what I recall, if your students cancelled, it counted against you, if they started class with incomplete funding counts against you. UTI hit the Hispanic market hard, many times these kids have undocumented parents who can't get parent loans, which made it a lot easier, first time college students are easier to talk to because they don't know to get a second opinion about cost at various schools. The problem is that no one wants to pay their high tuition, except for people who don't know any better. It's a sad reality. The UTI model worked in the 90s and in the early 2000s they were still reaping the benefits. Money wasted everywhere. By the mid 2000s, they choked and the noose has been getting tighter ever since. America and the US government have gotten wise as to the perils of for-profit education. I don't know why Mike Rowe praises technical schools as an alternate affordable option to college without knowing the crippling cost that families have to pay out or get into debt to cover.

A tip to students go get a certificate at a community college, you can still apply for additional training at Toyota, Ford, Mercedes etc without a UTI piece of paper certificate.

A tip to UTI employees: get out while you still can.

On a last note, let's talk about TRIP. Higher education is under scrutiny and schools cannot guarantee employment. I believe from 2015-2016 there was a huge push by admissions to really press on about tuition reimbursement. Many students and parents believed they would get their tuition reimbursed because their rep told them that once they graduate and get a job, employers will pay back their loans. Therefore, for the first time, they were more than willing to take out loans. I heard this expectation from students with my own ears (things like "well my employer will pay those loans back" "can you tell me when my loans will be repaid for me?") It was a very dangerous gray line and I disagreed completely with the communication UTI reps were giving families. I couldn't bear the idea of these kids coming back in a year or two saying UTI lied to them about "TRIP". I quit due to this concern. I certainly hope this practice has ended. No whistle blowers I see. UTI only had one whistle blower and they settled out of court, I believe.

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Post ID: @TMg0Z5x-arh

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