I have been fortunate to have 28 plus years working outside for believe it or not Ohio Bell, Ameritech, SBC now AT&T. I'm always asked by my peers , Why don't you retire and maybe save a younger employees job if reductions hit construction? I always have to remind them i'm only 50 years old, way to young to leave now. I still work outside as of today and belive it or not still like what i'm doing. There is not many of us left that were hired in 1990 right out if huvh school. I've seen more changes in the outside envirorment then most could even imagine. We are ex linemen, now splicers who have endured lots of changes in the outside plant. To the younger techs out there, hopefuully you will be able to get to the 30 plus year mark and be able to decide on your own when to retire. Good luck to all employees as this company changes again.
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I’m currently lineman/outside plant with 12 years, I’m 32 with a wife and 2 year old daughter. I’m sweating this big time! I’m told by my manager that it’s only 1st level managers at the time and no craft positions yet. Plus our area has a very high workload...but yes please retire lol...
Stay here untill you decide not to. Learn to spell please.
Something that folks forget, it is harder for the older workers who are forced to leave the company to find work, especially in a field you have decades of experience in. Many of our skill sets are not transferable to other industries. If you are 50+, that is a serious strike against you. Everyone wants the youngsters fresh out of college, especially STEM degrees so they can burn them out at the lowest possible salary and fewer benefits.
The old timers should stick it out for as long at the company will let them. Keep your skills up to dated and keep learning new ones. The younger folks will have an easier time finding a new job outside the company just because they are younger.
Tell them once they are reported to the ethics committee based upon age discrimination there will be plenty of room....
OP, it’s your job until you choose to give it up! Senior people owe the junior people nothing. You were junior once, too. I’m amazed people have the gall to even ask that question.
AT&T has been doing force reductions every 6 months for at least 8 years. Not sure why this is such a surprise to the media.
Go get a contracting job they said it’ll be fun they said. I’ve worked as a contractor and it S---S compared to being an employee. I’d like to see some of the dinasaur C&E techs go take up a contractor position. They won’t. Know why? Because it S---S!
Buy a "Telephony" magazine. They are basically Outside Plant (OSP) AND have many different contract companies. It really depends in what part of the country you live in. There are many different contract companies. I was OSP- for my 28 years and AT&T could get by with a large % of contractors. I was a tech for 6 years and an OSP- engineer for 22 years and we used contract splicers all the time. I have been told since 2016 that the engineers that stay beyond 2020 would really be contract admin for the contractors. I was laid off in Sep 2018. If your are younger and want to be a splicers there are courses or schools you can go to. Good luck.
@iya They do it all the time., dependent on what your skillset is and what value you can bring them. Get on LinkedIn and check these companies out (any of the turf vendors, OTV's, etc. that do business with T). They hire tons of former AT former T employees that left on good terms and maintain good relationships with former Bosses and peers within the company might be able to help develop and enhance business opportunities with T for the new company. Insight that a former T employee brings into the complex, siloed organizational structure is also valuable. I personally know of many that have left T and thrived in these companies.
OP, I am right there with you. 25 years this year, 50 years old...retirement not an option yet.
Anyone know of the contractor companies hiring former AT&T workers?
Yes, India workers are not an option, but there is plenty of contractors out there who can splice fiber as well as copper. Example; Spectrum, contractors do 85% of their outside plant. Look up a job for splicing copper or fiber on the internet and the opprotunities are endless for contractors. I know some ex Telco retirees who work for these companies doing all the splicing up to the main tap ins then the main provider of service takes it from there. As for the engineering side of projects, AT&T contracts out projects then use AT&T employees to QC their projects. Eventually a contractor will send projects to a construction contractor then the placing will begin. We have been told that is coming by mid year and an AT&T rep will be the go to contact if there is an issue and will try to figure out what is needed without even seeing the project and what is entailed.
The reason you get those questions is because us millenials don’t know what it’s like to stay in one job for 30 years. I’m on my 3rd job with T in my 3rd location and 2nd state. Gone are the days of staying in the same city or even state you grew up in. Those good C&E and Core high paying jobs will soon be extinct.
Outside plant can’t be outsourced to India. And Broadband is the highest margin consumer service, which enables the other entertainment services in the home. While the current debt debacle is gets unwound through divestitures of nonstrategic assets, there will be pressure on what is a very capital intensive activity (upgrading to fiber), but longer term the return on investment is too big to ignore. And if the work is outsourced - unlike Calling Centers - those suppliers will need trained, knowledgeable workers in the same location. That makes outside plant different than other jobs at AT&T. There should always be a future . . . With someone.
No reductions right now but I would imagine as soon as the Project Light Gig is completed in June changes will come. Also I believe, as most know we still have no Contract yet. My personal belief is if the CWA was to strike the company would bring in Contractors and none of us outside forces will be back. Reme.ber the company is in debt bad, the money saved saved by using contractors would be huge.
Have you been informed of any reductions?