Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Pay cut when relocating from Chicago to Dallas

I have been offered to move Chicago to Dallas under the same position and band, but they will have to adjust the total compensation due to the cost of living differences. I make around $100k in Chicago.

How much pay cut to expect if I said yes? Any one knows what HR formulas are?

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There were better bargains before the carpet baggers from other states with higher cost of living and salaries moved in and became a disruption

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Post ID: @XApN27M-5hzc

In Dallas area, you can get above average house with less than 300k. Come to Chicago and see how expensive it is.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-5jik

North Texas has had a real estate boom lately, you may no longer see a bargain for a house as you have seen in past years. Competition is keen right now with multiple offers on good houses , especially within a good school district. And good luck with the traffic if needing to commute to the Death Star in downtown especially with no real mass transit options that you may be used to up in Chicago.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-4kyw

@XApN27M-qwn "Chicago is Geo Zone N3. Dallas is Geo Zone N2"

So what's the Dallas salary will be for a new employee who have to choose between Chicago and Dallas, if offered 100k base in Chicago?

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Post ID: @XApN27M-4byf

Illinois is a DUMP. I lived there for 23 years, left 5 years ago for TN..Immediate 5% raise. I can call Illinois a DUMP since I lived there.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-2wzb

Niqqa pahleez

Chicago is a sh;thole

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1lmj

@1hbt pardner I reckon you meant Houston cause Dallas is for the namby pambys

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1mng

@1ore, pretty much any level 2 or higher manager job pays at or near $100k if you don't take the first offer given

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1jpq

Forget all the stuff about moving to Texas---What job do you have that pays over $100K? I want to apply!!!!!!!

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1ore

Marc Kuban thinks you needs a hug. He’s considered a low key gentlemen in dallass. You’re gonna love it

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1ajq

They pay you in cowboy boots, tacky leather jackets, and ten gallon hats in Dallas.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1hbt

Dallas is a huge cultural shift from Chicago. Make very sure you want to live there before relocating for a company like this.

The weather is HOT 9 months of the year. Most people never go outside because it's so miserable. If you like green grass, occasional rain and winters, you will hate Texas.

Dallas is a huge step down in terms of culture vs Chicago. the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex is an endless sprawl of highways, traffic and ugly neighborhoods. The opposite of a high density urban metropolis like Chicago.

The people of Texas are nice enough, but you may not like their politics being from the north. AT&T management here, however, are extremely arrogant and demanding, worse than in other places.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1rxa

Move out of Illinois. Terrible schools, weather, high property taxes, and it will only get worse. You will look back and wish you did. I left and don’t regret it one bit. Illinois is losing population, the last one out please turn off the lights.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-1rfq

Would your moving costs be covered or would you pay moving expenses out of pocket?

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Post ID: @XApN27M-miv

Dont forget the huge hillbilly factor in Texas,..that would be an overriding factor for me!

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Post ID: @XApN27M-iqb

From chicago but lived in Dallas. No state income tax, way lower real estate taxes, I think home owners insurance was the only thing that was higher. And you will need 2, central air conditioners. Kind of a big suburb, no cool things like Chicago but if I was moving to keep a job, Dallas would be the only place I would go, at least until current leadership is gone. Best chance to survive TODAY IS Dallas.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-brv

A salary of $100,000 in Chicago, Illinois could decrease to $91,426 in Dallas, Texas

Comparison Highlights

  • Overall, Dallas, Texas is 8.6% cheaper than Chicago, Illinois

  • Median Home Cost is the biggest factor in the cost of living difference.

  • Median Home Cost is 16% cheaper in Dallas

https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/chicago-il/dallas-tx/100000

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Post ID: @XApN27M-hmr

Hey! That’s my Dump your talkin’ about! The only people allowed to call IL a dump are the people that live in that dump!

That said, it’s a dump!

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Post ID: @XApN27M-qwn

Chicago is Geo Zone N3. Dallas is Geo Zone N2. Your salary will not be cut but your yearly raises will be lower since you will be higher in your Target Salary Range.

In all honesty, the potential differences in salary are not large enough to be meaningful in this decision. There are much bigger factors you should be considering. Climate, politics, culture, family, job market, housing situation. If your not tied down, I'd do it. IL is a dump.

Though its humurous that someone mentioned high property taxes and sales taxes in the Dallas area. They must not realize that IL has the highest property taxes in the country and that Cook County sales tax is already close to 10%.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-odx

Don’t do it it’s a trap!!!!!

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Post ID: @XApN27M-ejq

If you have to ask these questions, you deserve to be cut. SMH

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Post ID: @XApN27M-fbq

Do you want to move? If not, why would you move for a company that is laying people off and do it for less money?

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Post ID: @XApN27M-vhq

@hmn pretty well said it, verify that with HR (record that call verification or they never said it).

This isn’t HR’s first rodeo, if they can’t tell you then there is something wrong. Then what happens if they drop you by 2020 in their push to slim down?

Unless, and that’s the if, you have a Pension on the line with Modified Rule of 75, I would stay and collect the Severance...see if Unemployment covers you and search for a company that wants your talents.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-qur

It used to be your salary stayed the same but the top end for your

Job title may go down. Hopefully it will go up or not change.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-sua

Bought the no income tax stuff when I moved there. The sales and property taxes are pretty high. If you decide to move check with your realtor. The special school property taxes in some areas are ridiculous.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-ujw

Sounds like you’re being fed a load of BS. Salaries are not adjusted upon a relocation. Your annual raise may be affected but I’m fairly confident that Chicago and Dallas fall into the same HR geo region category and shouldn’t have a difference in TSR.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-zzg

Hmmm, a move more than 50 miles and a cut in compensation - sounds like you could decline without losing severance eligibility

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Post ID: @XApN27M-hmn

texas does not like people from up north, you might want to stay

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Post ID: @XApN27M-bnv

Hmm, let’s see. It’s flatter than flat and hotter than hell for about 9 months. Tornadoes, traffic and absolutely no natural beauty. So I’m going to say that after about a year you’ll wish you were back in Chicago like so many other people who relocated to what is truly a c-appy city

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Post ID: @XApN27M-xrb

Well you won’t need a bullet proof vest here nor will you face as much corruption. No state income tax. Property and sales tax. It’s cheaper to live here. It’s a well led state with many opportunities.

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Post ID: @XApN27M-hqk

I'd say, look at the Market Zone now called GEO Zone. The FAQ on Geo Zones says a that a change in Geo Zones won't impact current salary. It is vague on merit increases, as we all know they like to keep us in the middle area of a Target Salary Range.

HR can best answer your questions, as they own that process.

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