In all my time at HP I only ever once knew of someone being fired for cause. When it was layoff time, it was typically the lower ranked colleagues who were WFR'd, and they got their severance.
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Ahh, entry stage left, of the flexibly workforce...
@XkpPSFG-5chw - Did you anyone failing PIP and still getting severance ?
Being terminated without any severance would be for violating some standard of conduct. Performance only probably wouldn't remove the severance. I saw a lot of terminations and just s---ing at your job didn't remove the severance. It was actions that did that.
"One of THE very best tricks to turn on the next guy, is specially reserved for the NEW guy to your group!"
I have seen this happen, more than once. Start sabotaging him ASAP. Even if no one is wfr'd, he will be at the bottom of the ranking pile, increasing your chances of getting a tiny raise.
Severance Snape works for HPE, and I “channeled” Severance Snape by watching “Hairy Pothead” movies, such as “Hairy Pothead and the Bowl of Smoke and Fire”, so I can tell you just a WEEE tad about Severance… But only after I REALLY-REALLY get into that one particular movie, in a special way, if you know what I mean…
What I can tell you about Severance, is that you want to have HPE GIVE IT TO THE NEXT GUY, not to you! So you, in turn, need to give it to the next guy!
One of THE very best tricks to turn on the next guy, is specially reserved for the NEW guy to your group! It goes as follows: New guy to the group has no credibility, since he’s new, and still “learning the ropes”. Remind the boss of that, as often as is needed, to be sure the boss agrees with you. Then, since the new guy is new (and therefor lacks credibility), make sure that he quadruple-proves ALL of his work (while you and your buddies only single-prove your work, if even that). That will make him SLOW.
Next comes the genius part of this show! As “new guy” loses his newness, you have a NEW reason to question his credibility! He is SLOW!!! He is slow, shows no credibility, so he must quadruple-prove his work. Makes him slow, therefor shows his lack of credibility… Repeat loop till N = N + 1 + infinity…
Don't know, but keep in mind that to get severance you have to sign away any right to sue, so I guess I could see HPE giving severance to those who are fired with cause.
Then again, I saw many poor performers get WFR'd during my time at HP. The only downsides with laying someone off (that I know of) is that: 1) they can get unemployment, which can cost HP and 2) you can't replace them for six months.