Thread regarding Avaya layoffs

Gps in company vehicles

Here is the rumor. Since we all know technicians do absolutely nothing all day the company is hiring an outside firm to go over company vehicle gps reports and location on company cell phones. Thus will enable the company legally to fire associates who have been falsifying their time sheets. Technicians are to be on the job at 8 am not home. Furthermore location on company cell phones are also being looked at and since we have a shared plan personal calls and texts during times that they showed training or time to job during such hours can be a fireable offense. The company can no longer afford to have dead wood like Avaya technicians anyone, the stock is tanking and the gps in the trucks and phones are being studied carefully.

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If i get hiread willl eye get a penson two, i wood like to come bakk to Avayea as a wire pulleer and pull cable, when i worked in philadelfia my old coach Mary new i was a good worker and i was a spo. Setputter outer. I plugged fones in and put bases on the fones and ran wire and when i was tird i took a brake behind the boxes and wood sit there and when someone walkked in the room i woid start looking buzy againan . I was entitlead to brrakes anyway. I liked getting overteime cheks and cashing them at the santanader bank but then direct drposit was forsed on me so i hsd my deirect deposit go into my girlfriend's credit union but her husband speabt all my moneay beckause they didn't finealise they're diviorse . But its okay i still got my penseon but i took that in lump sim and drove to pats and ginos got steaks and then list it in Atlantic city a nice lady at the bar in ballys said i shud gambke and i list most of my oensen but i got a nice breakfast and her number this was in 2004 mayce but she hadn't called me yet. Answay i heard jobs coming back and i wabt to work and make big moneay on ocertimre . I heard dt disrtyeayubtion tecknision jibs being bought back in August 2019

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-jxax

If or should I say when the PBGC takes over the craft pension, just like they did for management, the amount of the pension that is guaranteed depends on your age and and your monthly pay out. You can go to their website and take a look at the table. Not sure if it covers your spouse. You can take the lump, I know people that have, don't know how they come up with the figure but is was much lower than I expected.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-ivin

Our pension is private, and is not guaranteed. If the PBGC has to step in and take over the pension fund that we currently have, you'll be lucky to get half of what you're expecting. The fact that Avaya hasn't been able to fully fund their portion of the pension for some time tells me that this may actually be pretty close to happening. Luckily, if you retire under this contract, you are allowed to take your pension out in one lump sum and reinvest elsewhere. Something to consider

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-hmpb

First the pension is guaranteed by the PBGC. Health insurance is a promise. The poster below is complaining about older techs not moving aside so he can slide into a what he views as a cushy job. Too funny. So typical of an union environment. Being a tech is not all what it appears, oncall and call outs are a pain and so often large companies will not allow any work to be done in their data centers during normal business hours so you can count on lots of weekend and after hours work.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-fxlo

What's mind boggling to me is that we have men who have been with this company over 40 years and are being offered 2 years salary to retire and don't, these technicians like thinker said sit in dedicated accounts and collect a hefty paycheck and have limited relative skills. Technicians need to know when its time to retire, your only jeopardizing your own pension and medical, if the company goes under all bets are off. Good luck trying to get anything then. Don't believe the pension is guaranteed its a company pension not union that means there is little to no guarantee and what may or may not be guaranteed is reduced. To survive head count must be reduced, anyone with over 40 years and still here is selfish and the management needs to get them out. They got over enough.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-fqai

The cheap gps is easy to disconnect, its a black cal amp device. Just trace the wire from the battery to the device, usually located behind the radio and problem solved, if they say anything just plug it back in they cant prove ANYTHING.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-9anw

THE new Coe should be a wier puller then there cood be good jobs bought back to the compeany. I like to take VV codes for misssealeanoiuis expeanseas. If i were new Oec id hire everyone who got diaL off and hyre them bak. I wood also but a new phone the won i have is a flip fone and you jeed to pres the buttonds a lott to get the letters you want to text. I failed the tab test 6 times btw, but i keept trying and they promotead me to tech but eye got layd off. I hersd that the wire pulling job will be bought back thats what i read in the chart rooms on yahoo

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-8pjr

Confirmed...wire puller guy is new CEO. Hooked on phonics now mandatory training. Watch out GCA104 your vocabulary will in fact come under scrutiny. HOPE you have an older brother who went to school.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-5huf

Latest rumor from CNBC and MSNBC is that wire puller guy under serious consideration for CEO job...stay tuned.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-5pfz

I was called into office about too many stops with the company car today. Kinda given the 3rd degree. Its starting to get ugly. The manager said stock at all time low everyone is in danger. Be careful guys.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-5ypy

They used gps to broom a couple of guys a few years back but these guy's needed to be broomed a long long time ago. You have to really scr3w up to be fired from Avaya.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-4wrk

Lol u don't have anything better to do? (Like a job or a life?)

They are not hiring anyone to look at GPS. Some managers actively match timesheets to GPS data for discrepancies others know exactly who to check such as the id--t posting here.

Company cell phones have unlimited minutes so i don't think they care about calls but maybe your calling your relatives in the pen??

HEY.... that guy wants to upsize his big mac meal so pay attention 👌

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-4ufd

Lol. When i was a tech in the area that is being spoken about i would disconnect the gps, freedom , no more callouts, i laugh at the misfits left here at Avaya. Have a nice life worrying about your jobs. Haaha

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-4vdj

There is no way to determine who posted what. All the posts have the identical beginning numbers and letters. I am in Florida and guarantee the post id will look the same as everyone else's. They used Gps to fire 2 New York technicians a few years ago and successfully used gps to fire technicians in other areas as well. Im not trying to debate anyone but the original poster is correct company wide gps is being looked at so keep your timesheets accurate and hope they dont go back too far...

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-2czi

Because it's the same poster as the NY stuff

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-1zcu

Where in this post does it mention gca 104 or Ny?? The original post seemed to not specify any area.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-1rpx

The Union will do nothing to protect anyone, in California LA they already do this with the gps, the techs understand to watch out and be where you are supposed to be. I know Miami especially looks into gps reports because that's where the data all gets sent to. Doesn't seem like anyone in local management does anything, but to save the company we need to cut headcount and cant afford to keep buying people out at 104 weeks a pop, that's not good business.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-1rwk

Agree with Ya Mama. Its BS. Avaya is to stupid to figure this out. Even if they did the union would protect the techs anyway.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-vsc

This poster is a disgruntled ex-tech. Seemingly with an ax to grind for NY/GCA104. The original post and the first reply have almost the same exact timestamp. Don't believe what you are reading here.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-nyk

Back in the Kinkos days I knew a tech that kept a mountain bike in his van. 8 AM park the van at the nearest Kinkos, ride the bike home, 4:30 PM ride the bike back to the van. I was told that the company couldn't look at cell phone locations. Some kind of union thing. I looked at it this way, after they started getting rid of techs I was on call almost every week, I could be sent anywhere at anytime for any kind of call. I frequently had to work nights and weekends with little or no heads up. I averaged 15-20 hours of overtime every week. During the day, as long as I took care of my paperwork, parts, training and customers, my free time was my business. Glad I got out when I did.

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-vmu

Fake

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Post ID: @Zf3ovdP-ryi

This is brilliant!! I know most technicians are DEFINITELY home at 8am. And they all use company phones for personal use, it should be a slam dunk. That's the rumor i heard too.

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