Thread regarding SAP layoffs

layoff advice

Currently on a contract, many teammates were let go including manager. Due to layoffs, we have 3 available headcounts for less experienced people at a lower T level. I qualify for these positions and my contract is ending soon, however, instead of extending an offer, the new manager wants me to renew my contract for a year and instead is not considering me for the 3 available headcounts that have just opened. (We haven't had a headcount opportunity the whole 2 years I've been on the team). To be honest, I love what I do, but at this time I really need the financial security and benefits of FTE.

Do I give an ultimatum? Other teams are hiring and have reached out to me, what can I do without burning any bridges?

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Line something up first so you can jet if things do not pan out, then VERY POLITELY and INDIRECTLY give an ultimatum...

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Post ID: @Zl9RZE6-5gpe

Why don't you ask why they would not consider you for the full-time position that is open? Explain that you need the benefits (ex. build up your 401k) or something like that. I think they want to take advantage of the fact that you were a contractor before and desperate for the money and would be fine being a contractor again. They are probably reserving those open headcounts for the internal people with currently higher salaries that they want to 'lay off' and have them 're-apply' for those new positions under lower salaries. Companies would post junior positions but they are really looking for senior people for them - only at junior pay.

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Post ID: @Zl9RZE6-1mtk

@Zl9RZE6-fzu - I agree with you 100%! There is no loyalty at SAP and you really have to look after yourself. I was a contractor once (after I was laid off in 2015), they treated me like a 2nd class citizen even though I worked there for 8 years before. They will drag you along and each contract extension is up in the air until the last minute because the person I was reporting to didn't care. As a contractor, you have no rights and they can kick you out any time without any warning even though you did excellent work.

BTW, there is an unwritten rule/trick that all contractors should be aware of. According to a new guideline, SAP can only hire a contractor for a 1-year term then they will have to either offer you a FTE or extend your contract under a different job description. The individuals that are managing the contractors are fully aware of the guideline and do what is needed to keep the contractor on.

The original poster should go for whatever opportunity is available to secure a FTE position and use as many references as possible. At the end of the day, management doesn't care about contractors because they only looking after their own well being. They should have offered you one of the 3 headcounts if you wanted it. Good luck in securing a FTE position, it is not that simple but it can be done if someone really cares.

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Post ID: @Zl9RZE6-ond

Forget your loyalty to the current team. If they valued you they would have converted you a while ago. If you report to management in Germany and are base in the US, they will never get headcount for you. They really hate the US for letting Billy McDoormat become the big boss of all SAP. Find any opportunity you can that offers FT benefits. Contractors can be shown the door on a moments notice with no severance pay.

You will not burn bridges because most of your references you use will speak up for you. People at SAP have no loyalty to colleagues or bosses and will stab each other in the back in a heartbeat. Apply to every opportunity you are qualified for. If you are under 30 years old you have a great shot at getting hired because that is the new SAP.

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