Thread regarding University of Phoenix layoffs

University of Phoenix and the College Meltdown

It boggles my mind that few reporters see a big story here, about the decline of America's largest university and the larger College Meltdown.

We're talking about a school whose promise in the 1970s was to further democratize education. But it resulted in an organization that preys upon the economically vulnerable, with marketing and questionable enrollment tactics--backed up with the worst of the US economic system--vulture capital.

Essentially, we have elite investors, using other people's money, at the top. Then layers of administrators. Then enrollment people struggling to be middle class being used to exploit working-class poor/underclass who in some cases think they are gaming the system. There are also the teachers, who are nothing much more than "inputs" and "variable costs" to be minimized. This system of oppression is not sustainable, and it undermines democracy.

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Should Phoenix or any university be held accountable for the pervasive cultural belief that education is the key to professional and personal success? Should they be held accountable or responsible for most American companies requiring college degrees for new hires or even lateral movement into management positions, and even entry-level jobs? These beliefs and perceptions have compelled millions of people aspiring to greater personal and professional success to enroll in America's colleges and universities. If we were back in the 50s we would be clamoring for more access, especially for women and minorities. Phoenix may have promised more than they could deliver on and enrolled marginal students who probably should not have matriculated; however, Phoenix is not responsible for the aspiration of those students to earn what they perceived as their ticket to ride in our culture. Did Phoenix capitalize on it and maybe even exploit it? I imagine the answer is yes; however I am not going to tell one of my students that they should not try, do not belong, and should be content with the station in life they now have and would likely stay in because of structural forces beyond their control. I know there is structural inequality and at least Phoenix and the like offer a hand up, and yes it is way too expensive, but then so is my undergrad alma mater. I borrowed $5K to graduate from an "elite" Jesuit institution back in the 90s. Today it is $40K a year. I paid $1500 a quarter for tuition, books, and board. I am not sure how I could afford anything but a community college today. It is the entire system that is culpable, not merely Phoenix.

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-gynf

"Debt isn't supposed to be written off, Candem. That isn't fair to lenders, or ultimately -in this case- to taxpayers."

You've got to be kidding. Tell that to Trump.

And not fair to Local 12, Villains, Thieves, and Scoundrels Union.

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-7xfq

Exactly! Why should taxpayers absorb the debt of bad choices by others? No way.

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-6zso

Debt isn't supposed to be written off, Candem. That isn't fair to lenders, or ultimately -in this case- to taxpayers.

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-6tcn

@ZoybY37-2oop, I have no vendetta. Just don't like to see people get ripped off. UoPX whistleblowers have been some my most respected allies. Have been covering the College Meltdown for years, and it included Corinthian Colleges, ITT Tech, EDMC (Art Institutes and others), DeVry, National American University, etc. And not just for-profit colleges, but also student loan servicers like Navient, textbook companies, and non-profit schools that have c-appy returns on investment or even worse, saddle people with debt that cannot be forgiven.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/college-mania-c-apademia-dahn-shaulis/?published=t

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-2hmg

Some of what this dahn meltdown guy says is true. UOP leadership is putrid for sure. Employees have no confidence in them at all regardless of what the surveys say. But what is his rabid, almost personal vendetta? It does seem extremely dodgy.

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-2oop

@ZoybY37-1mdk, how many of "us" are left?

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-1bsx

Most of us feel like dahn is getting to the point where we might see him on the news for something awful. He's very very disturbed.

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-1mdk

Dang - Dahns really going off the deep end now. Sees bought people left and right.

Of course he’s the only one who really knows what’s happening, after all he’s so well informed.

Up the meds man!

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-1xjg

@ZoybY37-rgk, how's life in the UoPX bunker? Is the Kool Aid supply large enough?

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-shn

@ZoybY37-lzi, the inside story of University of Phoenix is complicated. John D. Murphy and others could tell you some of it.

John Sperling was a so-called liberal, though he practiced cutthroat tactics against labor.

Other so-called liberals were involved including Nancy Pelosi and indirectly Barack Obama, through his cronies. University of Phoenix also sold their story to Oprah Winfrey, hook line and sinker.

UoPX also bought Al Sharpton, Suze Orman, Ellen and several pro athletes.

TN, was more conservative--a troglodyte who should have done time for his misdeeds, but instead got to corrupt EDMC and Career Education even further.

And UoPX bought anybody they could buy, including John McCain and George Bush (with Margaret Spellings as the surrogate).

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Post ID: @ZoybY37-kld

I forgot to add that some of the students gaming the system or "punching the ticket" are also struggling middle class.

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