IT, Finance and Commercial are expected to layoff ~300 people in 2 waves starting with IT in early Q3 2025. A majority of operational support for IT will be moved to outsourced providers. Major IT restructuring will be done using the “spans and layers” concept suggested by BCG to reduce management layers.
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@3ce lol this guy is obviously in accounting without a degree!
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@38x
I’ve worked in industry for 25 years. The only accounting manager I’ve seen worth a damn is one who didn’t have a degree
@3ac same- in my group an unqualified woman is set to leapfrog men that were there before her and set to move up- very sad when they will be awful managers and everyone knows it
@38h unfortunately I've seen the opposite... for the mid career employees the men have been managed moved out of the way for up-and-coming female leadership. In 2024 cpchem did a women's in leadership program with all the fanfare of a homepage article and picture (and the traditional ALDP hasn't been held in a while). Those wldp participants were assigned LT mentors who were to help them find their next promotion. Well you get what you measure...
Furthermore in dec 2024 cpchem did a womens and minority leadership program that targeted FLL types...
@3a8 I may very well get laid off! I have a family and a need for the pay as well like everyone else. What I do know is that I’m currently happy in my role and wouldn’t leave otherwise. If I felt such hate for the company prior to the lay off announcements, I would’ve made a CALCULATED decision to leave sooner. I’ve done it before and if needed, I’ll do it again. But you are correct everyone has a right to be upset. I simply pointed out that some of the comments started to lean into conversations about feeling jaded long term and not recently. This thread seems to be the perfect opportunity to voice that.
@39x I think you will be saying “look at me” when you get laid off. People have a right to be upset. Horrible choices were made that led to this path. Some people like to claim they can leave toxic environments but when it comes down to it. People have to stay for the pay. Reality rules most of us unlike you. Good luck on your next job!
Ge-z. I’m not sure what’s more depressing the possibility of a layoff headed my way or reading this thread. Some comments here are very objective and informative while others just straight up say look at me! I want to join the echo chamber circlej--kof disgruntled employees who want to gossip and complain anonymously! Either way I suppose it’s your right but it seems it would’ve been more logical and less painful to leave voluntarily a long time. You couldn’t pay any amount of money to continue working in a ‘toxic’ and ‘woke’ environment as it’s being called. It’s not worth your mental health people! I hope you all took advantage of the resume writing workshops and the mock interview help because we may all soon need it. And for God’s sake, don’t listen to the comment below suggesting to take a cr-p on the pickle ball court. That’s so unhinged!
@38w can you believe they had people dedicate their time to offer various options so employees could choose which chairs would be at the new hq?
Promise they spent more time on what chairs stay than people!!!
Accounting/finance is a specialized field and CPChem has made a habit of putting unqualified people in these roles. Anyone without a degree in accounting or finance that holds one of these positions should absolutely be let go because they offer no value in the position.
What are we going to do with all these chairs that we wasted colossal amounts or time and money on for the new excessive HQ?? There won’t be anyone to put in them.
Laying off finance and outsourcing I understand. I don’t think anyone in the company is competent enough to handle the responsibility. However IT? Outsource that and you get canned answers and minimal response.
@OP I hope every employee that gets laid off takes a sh-t on the new pickleball court on their way out.
@OP are the barista’s jobs also in jeopardy? How can the LT have their fancy coffee in their completely excessive new HQ building while they talk about which employees besides themselves are expendable without the baristas??
Get rid of the under-performers, having to do their jobs while they get is demoralizing. Quit protecting the nepotism babies.
You could have saved money by letting us be remote, unfortunately now with the shiny new HQ it’s all about optics. Butts in seats. Lots of places to “collaborate” aka hide. Let me take a three hour lunch to use that pickleball court on CP Chem’s dime. 🙄
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@387 I am sure there will be more than just these 2 upcoming rounds of layoffs. There’s no way this company can keep paying its employees while also trying to pay for all the BS projects they’ve been paying for.
@1n2 Great company? Are you serious? A company that is trading your job for pickleball courts and a flashy new HQ? They traded your job to bring in their friends and buddies from other companies.
If you look at examples of toxic companies Chevron Phillips fits all of the examples perfectly. There needs to be change but not by laying off support groups. They need to whipe management as a whole off the slate.
I have seen women in this company take a back seat to the “men” in the room. I’ve seen HR help cover that up.
I have watched them promote every engineer and award them raises even when they were not warranted. In the name of keeping talent.
I’ve seen the elitist mentality win out to the demise of what was once a great place to work. Ego is the issue.
This is no surprise that layoffs are coming. It is a surprise some of our coworkers never seen it coming. I am also surprised with the amount of changes that the new managers brought it took this long.
Would not shock me a bit if TOTAL bought us based on the rumors - “ Canfield is making such poor decisions he has to be purposely sabotaging Chevron Phillips.”
@va that’s not true at all. Canfield said as much during a town hall. He said we were spending faster than we could make it. They knew the problems were coming. They thought the mega projects would save us.
This company is absolute trash and unfortunately it won’t be the Canfields and caballeros who get what they deserve. Full management change over is the only thing that could save the company. But at this point, who cares? Even the owner company’s investors are calling for someone to stamp out this fire so they can stop hemorrhaging money. Hopefully this is just the first round of layoffs.
Transparent? Are you kidding me? The management team talks about the plant status at family gatherings and good ol boy events. Transparent I say not@1fz
@2t6 Amen! Look at all the commercial managers without any experience in commercial!
How many in IT would be laid off?
@379 manufacturing contractors or actual CPChem employees? I would think the employees like operators out in the plants would be safe.
@378 yes September is what I heard as well. Manufacturing supposed to be hit hard.
@36g I heard that September is when stuff will go down. Still in 3Q but gives them more time to get organized/politically menuver. Will probably need a second round next year. Any confirmation of these two facts?
@31g there are no packages being offered at this time.
@2y2 I am not saying out of thin air. I spent more than 10 years with CPChem and knew a lot about it. The company promotes minorities (their favorites/relatives) who are much less qualified and they tend to make bad decisions in investments/projects which could have saved the company some money. When I was there, a minority lady was hired to be a senior counsel and a year later, she became a supervisor of someone who's been with the company more than 10 years. My mentor was not promoted for 13 years due to him being white (of course he quit. He was quite vocal about being discriminated due to him not a minorty). I had to attend stupid ICARE meetings/trainings where a black woman rants about all the past US presidents, the country and the history. This is seriously annoying and dividing the company further, since the whole group complains later about these training being non-productive. A girl was hired since her father also works for CPChem and so was another guy since his wife already works there. My last supervior was barely qualified to be a manager, nor had he ever worked in that group, but hey guess what? He licks the boots of a senior manager and also he was a minority!
What severance options they are giving for those who are laid off? Did anyone receive any suchthing?
It’s kinda sad to see so much blame on “woke” as if that had any impact on sh---y markets
@2t6 amen to the wokeness! Not the same company that it was when I was hired- and also to the hiring of family- our CIO is a prime example of this
CPChem's leadership has always been really bad. It's no surprise that they would have lay off people but the company should really have been focusing on good people rather than their friends, relatives or family members. The way it was run has been too woke and with weak demand for plastics, I am not surprised of the layoffs.
@2nf yep we are ALL replaceable
@27n we are all fungible. Nobody is irreplaceable despite what you may think. Just pray chain margins return this year or it is going to get ugly.
@27n IT is necessary, especially the IT at the plant level. I don't understand how they will outsource that part of IT? There are tasks that IT performs that need a person present on-site to troubleshoot and fix. How is a call center going to help them? HQ has problems maintaining the network as it is. Teams has issues all the time. The company has communications that must be properly maintained. How will a call center handle issues that require someone to go troubleshoot physically? The issue is that no one is addressing this and leaving everyone to speculate the worst outcome. Those who understand the work IT does recognizes that these decisions will have a grave impact on everyone else.
@22r What is FUNGIBLE about IT? Exchanging a group of ery knowledgeable people who know how and why every IT system used by the company is designed, built, supported, and diagnosed, with a group of outsourced peope who know none of that? Doesn't seem interchangeable to me.
Call the Help Desk in India and open a ticket, will be the answer most will receive. Its going to be a nightmare for anyone not severed. And where will they store the tons of pellets when transpo is offline? On the ground.
I just want to know is the pickleball court available to all employees even those not at the woodlands? Asking for a friend .
@228 you reinforced the point. Shell went billions over and is trying to exit chemicals as we speak. If we go even a billion over we will suffer starting with fungible positions like IT and HR.
@1s7 Really? How many in the name of talent do you see around that are just too busy doing nothing? How many of those talented people have done something new lately? We all need to dig deeper and introspect. Tenure does not equal to Talent....
@21p Shell is much larger company than CPCHEM , they are upstream, downstream, LNG and Chemicals, they can afford foolish decisions and go over budgets. They can easily layoff 300 people in a day , they can afford it but 300 people at CP is like gutting the company inside out. Outsoaring is very expensive and CP know it well, but I don't blame HER for this fall out , I blame our very nice CEO who is obviously is not cut out for this. He should work harder to peruse the owners for an alternative. Something that Mark and Bruce will ever let this happen.