Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

I'm vaxxed AND boosted. But I'm not telling them, or filling out their silly form.

Hoping for a layoff and severance out of this.

Pfizer led to 1,200 deaths after vaccine administered?

Considering that Pfizer's vaccine has been administered 267,639,715 times as of 11/30/2021 that's a pretty freaking awesome success rate.

99.99995% survival rate.

But go ahead and claim it's dangerous.

I answered "No, I am not vaxed" both times just so I wouldn't get dinged for non-compliance.

I had same thought OP. I am not completing it. I am not going to answer I agree to testing when I will be exempt as work from home.

Omg lol the level of petty is unreal. Does it really matter? The outcome is the same as far as your testing requirement. They can mandate you to give them an answer, geezus lol

Follow the directions in the email for unvaccinated people or people choosing to not get vaccinated. It's really not complicated. WF is not judging you or forcing you to get the vaccine. They are just trying to be responsible and organized and this is just what they are doing right now. Who knows what will change as time goes on.

@zun
I disagree. It would depend on what the reason is for a person holding a sincere religious belief that prohibits testing. Is it the tools being used for testing, or the test itself? Is it a belief that tests are a tool of satan, or their creation was satanically-derived, or something else?

@zun+1e69MyOM
The legal department has reviewed this and many other laws. There is no grounds for religious or medical exemptions to testing, since it is offered in multiple methods. You may be able to argue for one, but not all. Good luck!

I would recommend reviewing the EEOC guidance regarding religious discrimination, and researching Title VII of the Civil Rights of 1964.

“These protections apply whether the religious beliefs or practices in question are common or non-traditional, and regardless of whether they are recognized by any organized religion. The test under Title VII's definition of religion is whether the beliefs are, in the individual's "own scheme of things, religious.”

Thanks to those with helpful responses. Has anyone any experience in getting a religious accommodation approved?

If companies have the right to fire you for wearing a burqa, they logically they have the right to fire you for refusing to get vaccinated.

And if your counter to that is that no one has a right to tell you what to do with your own body, and yet you don't support the right to an ab-----n, you be cray cray.

To the person who said that you cannot get a religious exemption for testing, that is not true. A person’s religious beliefs can create a need for accommodation for all sorts of reasons.

@zns+1e69MyOM
You'll also be required to do the testing outside of working hours as a condition of employment. You won't be on the clock until the test is done.

@zns+1e69MyOM
Subsidies for free testing are not planned to last long. 90 days tops.

I am unvaxxed and do not have a problem with weekly testing; as long as the company pays the cost and I won't lose out on pay for the hour it will take. I'm more concerned with false positives and then having to quarantine for two weeks.

@wnf+1e69MyOM
You may get a medical or religious exception from being vaxed, but not for the testing.

Test your assumptions at your earliest convenience.

Don’t say yes to testing if you are seeking a medical or religious exemption for it. You will be counted as unvaccinated, but better to be counted as unvaccinated than to agree to something you want to be exempted from.

When you go through the accommodation process, the person who is working with you can make a note indicating why you did not provide an update in the Vaccination Portal.

@jrh+1e69MyOM, she'd rather quit than agree to being tested?

Without revealing too much about our group, myself and other managers have been instructed to set aside the names of employees who don’t respond, and are having a meeting next week to sync up insubordination verbiage. Even though those two things haven’t been linked yet, one antivax lead who is in the know herself has been making it known she will not be returning next year, and is not happy about it.

Big companies and medium sized companies are all setting up similar vaccination programs to Wells Fargo, or worse. I would say if you don't like it, you can go work at McDonalds, but they're requiring vaccination too.

I’d seriously consider that your manager may be notified if you don’t respond at all. Just do the response, if you’re admitting to being unvaccinated what do you have to lose?

OP answered his own question. Did it by reading the FAQ.

Requiring vaccinations has been settled law since 1905.

The court cases the OP references are mostly political theater. Someone gets to say "I sued the Big Evil Govamint so vote for me!", even though they know they're going to lose.

Gets hard right voters to the polls, even though it's all for show.

Great way to waste my tax money for political gain.

In summary, read the FAQ, know your rights but also know that FaceBook is not a lawyer, and neither is the OP.

But the OP does have an agenda, and it's stirring up trouble on a website that's supposed to be about layoffs, probably because he got kicked off FB for posting dangerous misinformation.

Nobody said you'll get fired for not getting the shot... you've been told you'll have to get tested... most likely at your own expense.

"What is the best option in this impossible situation" - here's a clue, tell the truth. As for your imaginary Constitutional rights, might want to read up on that one. Nobody is forcing anyone to get vaccinated.

If you don't respond you can be fired for not following a company requirement. You are at the very least required to respond.

Your response is also being tracked - vaxxed vs unvaxxed - and that will direct future communications.

The courts are saying the government can't mandate, not private companies.

I responded
Cause if I get fired for not taking a experimental shot I look forward to suing for millions in pain and suffering