Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

What I know.

I found this site because I was looking for news stories or leaks on upcoming Dell decisions, some of which I already know of. Read quite a few of the posts and replies, laughable or just a weird sadness. I felt some sort of obligation to post what I know, which I'm sure someone will rip apart for whatever reason.

Yes I am a manager in North America. Yes there are going to be cuts but not in the traditional manner. On January 17 we had to update the Know Your Talent listings in Workday. This is where we "scale" our team, listing them as one of five categories low to high. Scaling concern, solid scaling, scale within level, pro in place, and upwardly scalable. This is a yearly exercise but we were called upon to perform this a little earlier than usual. Reason being is that the managers' Directors were to use these scalings with any PIPs, Coaching Plans, and general Workday conversations to put together a list of low performers only. There is a desired bell curve for ranking high to low because like it or not teams are stack ranked, but not all managers have low performers.

Why this is important? My Director was called upon to submit a manually created list for our individual HR rep to review, and ultimately balance the cost reduction as best as possible.has about Again, it is a cost reduction, not a headcount reduction. There are multiple managers that report to my director with their teams all performing the same work. The team with older high salaried employees is not losing a soul, but another team is losing 3 of their mid-level salary people that are considered low performers. There is another team that works a niche of Dell that has folks in a very wide salary range. This group is also only losing a few but again, low performers that are officially listed as a scaling concern.

So whats the plan? Because it is cost and not headcount CCO related, decisions are being made at the Director level. There is a larger pool of low performers that can be considered for reduction. Decisions were made and finalized on January 27. Beginning February 6 and then over the course of the rest of the month or so, people will be told in waves that they are no longer needed. In discussions with my peers, we think the waves of notifications is a public relations move in hopes of not decreasing the strength of our brand, again this is opinion but the waves are confirmed. A different discussion with my Director, he believes this is an overall positive financial move because it will salvage and better the pending ACR and IBP, This could create positive reinforcement of value to the rest of our workforce.

In ISG we stand to lose about 5%. I've heard that some inside sales people and certain territories of field service stand to lose low performers at about 10-20%. I think for everyone but know definitively for the loss on my peer's team that the parachute is 2 months plus 1 week per year of service.

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Post ID: @OP+1l2yqsaq

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I was on a team rated as critical shortage 6 of 10.. poof #delllayoff

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Post ID: @1ppx+1l2yqsaq

Time to get rid of the VPs with 5 people reporting to them and the SVPs reporting to SVPs. The middle management at Dell is just foolish. Cut them in half and we wouldn’t skip a beat.

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Post ID: @1rel+1l2yqsaq

@qdx+1l2yqsaq

"For anyone asking, managers don't know. Only directors."

So the Director will do the layoff not the manager?

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Post ID: @1cko+1l2yqsaq

@kfb+1l2yqsaq They use a formula for IBP to calculate what get if it’s less 12 months work for that fiscal year. However if work until Jan 31 you’d get 100% of the amount. For example in profitable year you could get 120% if you were around until March but if let go between Jan March only get 100% since weren’t there until March payout date. I wouldn’t worry about it as I hear payout less 100% this year anyway.

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Post ID: @sov+1l2yqsaq

In EMEA, some nearing retirement age are being asked if they would be interested in/would they take a severance payment if offered. Might be their only opportunity before they reach retirement so there will be a high take up from that group.

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Post ID: @nur+1l2yqsaq

For anyone asking, managers don't know. Only directors.

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Post ID: @qdx+1l2yqsaq

@nsh+1l2yqsaq Yes if your on FMLA your big target!

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Post ID: @tvj+1l2yqsaq

@jxb+1l2yqsaq

What do you mean by "IBP will be paid prorated"?
The fiscal year just ended, what is there to prorate?

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Post ID: @kfb+1l2yqsaq

They hit my group last qtr but not on large scale (<50) that’s coming. It was described to them as WFR and was across spectrum ppl wise not just low performers but also more senior higher wage earners too. One thing beware of is they cut several in that group that were on medical leave so that seems be target as well.

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Post ID: @nsh+1l2yqsaq

This is a cost excercise, 4% overall hc reduction. Some are hit more than others, low performers first (as low hanging fruits), but even beyond that, incl managers.
IBP will be paid prorated
Notifications are starting in US and India tomorrow, some countries are already done, others to follow later due to legal implications.

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Post ID: @jxb+1l2yqsaq

OP here, from the *.PPT

RE: Scaling Concern

  • may be struggling to fulfill expectations of current role
  • unable to take on new roles or challenges
  • an increase in responsibility will negatively impact current role
  • unable to take on more complex work
  • realization of Dells culture code is low by comparison to the rest of the team

I saw someone ask about IBP, that’s not paid until (I believe) the first pay period of March or April. People gone by then will not receive IBP.

I wish their was a way to share documents and remain anonymous, I already know my position is safe but can’t risk sharing things I shouldn’t.

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Post ID: @ejm+1l2yqsaq

How do you explain the layoff happened in a couple of weeks ago ?

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Post ID: @yxr+1l2yqsaq

Great write up as I’m with ISG. What do you know about our IBP? Will we be paid out?

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Post ID: @moz+1l2yqsaq

If you’re a fifty something year old and get laid off. Just pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Should be easy enough my dude.

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Post ID: @orj+1l2yqsaq

I'm late fifties white male...I will keep you all posted on my status.

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Post ID: @xjn+1l2yqsaq

undeniable work force reduction. would be out of character for dell NOT to take this opportunity.

dell is a nickel and dime outfit. they would rent out sides of their buildings as billboards if someone was willing to pay

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Post ID: @qzg+1l2yqsaq

This is simply a WFR(work force reduction) nothing more nothing less. That is how it will be communicated by Dell. Bottom line it’s to reduce cost. While it does give HR the opportunity to weed out low performers , aged higher paid workers etc etc HR won’t paint it that way. It’s much easier tag it as WFR and less likely for lawsuits. Ask me how I know lol.

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Post ID: @eah+1l2yqsaq

As a non manager/business person myself, I’d GUESS someone who is a “scalable concern” is someone management believes doesn’t have upward potential or the ability to take on larger projects. But again that’s just a guess from low level IC!

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Post ID: @dld+1l2yqsaq

For those of us not with business/management backgrounds: What does it mean for an employee to be "a scaling concern"?

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Post ID: @toj+1l2yqsaq

“How many is 5%” this mentality is one of my biggest issues with Dell (probably a corporate thing not just Dell) but so many people ask simple questions instead of taking 5 minutes to figure it out themselves.

Find how many people work at Dell and figure out 5 perfect of that. Easy peasy!

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Post ID: @lha+1l2yqsaq

finally..a legitimate forum post with real valuable information. I

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Post ID: @spo+1l2yqsaq

What happens if a team has no team members they can put in the scaling concern group ?

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Post ID: @ska+1l2yqsaq

@szv+1l2yqsaq

It is very much there. Are you logged in? If not it won’t let you view the Dell specific room posts.

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Post ID: @aqy+1l2yqsaq

The same conversation is in here. Both sites have alot of the sane information in it.

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Post ID: @mms+1l2yqsaq

more BS. Blind post does not exist.

OOPS!!The page you’re looking for doesn’t exist.

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Post ID: @szv+1l2yqsaq

can you please copy-paste it here? i don't have a blind account, and i believe a lot of people here don't have it either. business email account is required on sign up and they are not trustworthy in keeping personal data safe (they had a huge leak while back, was all over the news).

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Post ID: @xqy+1l2yqsaq

It is on the Dell specific forum. You will need to be logged in to see it.

https://us.teamblind.com/s/ms4eVOp5

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Post ID: @ikz+1l2yqsaq

@dun+1l2yqsaq
What's the link to the talking points? Couldn't find anything.

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Post ID: @abd+1l2yqsaq

@OP+1l2yqsaq

Does the manager already know who is being let go, if they are not part of next week's wave?

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Post ID: @akj+1l2yqsaq

@ldc+1l2yqsaq

I get what you were saying. First off, Epstein didn’t ki-l himself :-)

The number of people I know internally that actually look at this site is staggering. If you do a Google search for layoffs and Dell, this is like the top three hits you get.

As far as detailed in formation. That also makes some sense as first line management teams actually got data or we could go Friday and the talking points script followed mid of this week. So it makes sense that those details are flowing out into the world. There are a couple of posts on blind that you’re very detailed information. As a matter fact, it looks like copy and paste of the talking points.

All that being said, it’s really a moot point. Come Monday we will either start getting a massive amount of information on people impacted or this will turn out to be a complete and utter bullsh-t. Having seen some of the one in ones that my peers are talking about getting at the last minute, I tend to believe that this is actually happening.

And I don’t get all the consternation for a site that is all about rumors and sharing rumors.

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Post ID: @dun+1l2yqsaq

About 6500 total.

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Post ID: @lyv+1l2yqsaq

How many is 5%?
That’s just a vague number.

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Post ID: @rmf+1l2yqsaq

Pretty much all of this matches up with what communications I have received. That being said, the only part that doesn’t match up is the timing. HR was pretty clear that all of this was to be done by Wednesday. That does not preclude another round in the future, but part of the official communications is the 5% number.

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Post ID: @kgz+1l2yqsaq

Lol. no this is fiction.

went from days of layoffs to waves over months. from high earners to mid level in multiples.

basically could be something here, could be somthing there, and something inbetween those spots.

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Post ID: @pjq+1l2yqsaq

We thank you for your service if that is all true

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