IT, Finance and Commercial are expected to layoff ~300 people in 2 waves starting with IT in early Q3 2025. A majority of operational support for IT will be moved to outsourced providers. Major IT restructuring will be done using the “spans and layers” concept suggested by BCG to reduce management layers.
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Totally agree with that rant. Most of the managers in IT don't know sh-t but keep getting promoted because they su-k up to their bosses. These id--ts keep micromanaging because they have nothing else to do. No technical skills, design principles, nada.
@42g
Agree
thre is a good post on the home page:
CPChem is a clown show right now
Link: @OP+1k06djs7p
Home page link : /chevron-phillips-chemical
https://www.thelayoff.com/chevron-phillips-chemical
@42f 100% agree, so many incapable people, starting at the top. The CIO has no clue what she is doing… yet she won’t be outsourced, only the people she led astray. Manufacturing has declined every year since a certain manufacturing VP was appointed… guess who also won’t be outsourced or let go. Just look at manufacturing performance for the last 6 years, the trend is glaring and it really has nothing to do with the big projects because the current portfolio of plants has struggled with him at the helm. The poor decision making and investments are just the icing on the cake and a deflection from what has been happening in the plants under his poor leadership.
@42g Wow. The CIO has no experience going into the job, certainly no experience in manufacturing, and absolutely no experience in “business transformation”, which is why I left when she started in the position (and she started b/c of business relationship with an ex-CEO). Sister got hired in Finance/AP when I left, and after she started in her position. Introduced multiple layers of “supervisors” when I was leaving and what I’m reading now will remove “spans and layers”. Was interested in outsourcing from the very beginning, long before this market and long before consultants came in. The people reporting directly to her…. 50% had ZERO experience with the area in which they are were asked to run, worked on Axia rewrite several times with contractors for years…. years. Had a mid-level engineer doing nothing more than a graduate “admin” role for a long time creating reports and asking people to put in their “timesheets”. Ariba was a colossal failed to the tune of $10M, which was her push. Said “yes” to everything the business wanted and became a free-for-all with all of the projects running amuck. Created a hybrid IT organization supporting any project with general utility players only to reverse that and put everyone into functional based groups. Wanted to do custom developed apps only one year, and then strategy turned to packaged only apps. Creates and builds a “SEE” office which is certainly not core to CPC and grew that with almost no company satisfaction minus a few key contractors in that org. Zero strategy and still cannot believe the LT has let the CIO get away with what she has gotten away with.
@1n2
I agree. I have worked in several companies on my 20+ years of experience in IT. And I am proud to say that CPCHEM CIO is the most competent CIO I've seen so far. She is definitely qualified to run the organization, with strong experience on the job and have high moral standard, great working etiquette and integrity.
I don't think nobody in this position wants to be on this season of downturn in the company, nobody wants to see people getting laid off from their job. But this is a decision that the business needs to make in order to survive.
But I do agree that outsourcing IT to India is not a very smart decision. We all have experienced calling a technical support and somebody from across the world answered the call and issues are not resolved, and worst case we ended up frustrated.
I think a re-organization and cutting off unnecessary positions, and stop getting contractors.
@3wx you are 100% correct. CPC has so many incapable people because of the leftism culture. Good workers and bad workers are being put into the same performance bucket for decades so now they cannot weed out who they can fire as well as which disciplines is running fat and providing lower returns to the company/site. In addition, our managers are not technical at all to distinguish good and bad workers. Elliot was right about CPC heavily rely on consulting firms/contractors.
@41h you shall be gone if you are not qualified. CPC is not a daycare to spoon feed unqualified workers
@41m so put it to rest. Instead of the secrecy for the past 6 months, Just tell them who is getting let go so they can find jobs. Maslow hierarchy of needs. Ever heard of it? These decisions are affecting the two most important categories. People aren't going to be able to concentrate because their physiological and safety needs are being threatened.
I know the unknown weighs heavily right now. The silence, the rumors, the overthinking, it can be overwhelming. Many of us are just trying to stay focused, provide for our families, and hang on to a little peace of mind.
In the midst of this, I just want to share a scripture that I’ve always held close to my heart. It has helped me through some of my most uncertain times in life.
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 4:6–7
Whether you’re a person of Christian faith or not, I hope you find some comfort in knowing you’re not alone. We’re all navigating this together. Keep showing up. Keep doing your best. Peace isn’t the absence of storms, it’s the calm within one.
Stay grounded and take care of yourselves.
@OP hr is making people fill out their profiles so they can easily weed out those who don't qualify for their current positions. If you don't have the right degree or years of experience you are gone! Such a shame.
@3ym How the treat and value employees is by laying them off in favor of pickleball courts at their new state of the art HQ that was completely unnecessary even in great market conditions. Let’s hope you’re at LEAST required to furnish your own paddle and ball if they deem you worthy to stay for now. Someone put it in PBD right now!
@3yd Clearly placing your eggs in the CPChem basket is a great idea… that’s going really well obviously. They’re doing amazing… oh wait, some of us forgot what started this thread. Nonsense… Elliott is right, CPChem is a drag on P66’s market value and a poor choice of investment in general. P66 divested the wrong investments in favor of CPChem for one reason and one reason only.
@3nc Re: HR as a shield for management. It's honestly that way just about everywhere. Never trust HR -- there are bunches of employment lawyer videos that will tell you the same thing. But at CPC, we have iCare blown up our skirts 24/7. It only takes one time for that mask to slip and you shed your naiveté pretty dang quick. Let's see how they treat employees as they're being laid off.
@3yc P66 investors are holding cpchem because our market value is less than 10 billion today (benchmark against dow chemical) not the $30 billion elliott was dreaming we should be worth. Elliott's plan was shaping up to disappoint big time ... today. Now a few years down the road.... Remember if chevron buys out cpchem there will be at least 1500 jobs that are "synergies" ranging from legal to corporate engineering, from hr to commercial, and from IT to supply chain. You better hope p66 believes or it's going to be very painful indeed.
@3xe well we’ve all read how P66 investors feel about CPChem as part of their portfolio. The only reason they’re still holding on at this point is because the CEO of P66 is the former CEO of CPChem. They’d be wise to shed their dead weight too.
@3tj this is nonsense. The ones breaking the code of conduct with a serious conflict of interest violation are two of the people who decide what the rules are and who goes and who stays. Completely unethical plain and simple. They would literally have to get rid of themselves… see how you don’t make sense?
@3xt…it’s “steal” merchandise.
@3xt Sorry there tough guy but this kind of failure is square on leadership.
Posh HQ’s
Mega Projects
Poor choices for management and leadership positions.
You could’ve had the best workforce in the world and this leadership would’ve failed them.
If it’s affairs, if it’s good ol boy systems, if it’s brotherhoods for Alma maters, if it’s bad enough leadership people consider outside counsel, if it’s covering up environmental excursions, ignoring market outlooks, or stop spending when you are outrunning what you make. Whatever is true and whatever isn’t it is very clear leadership was not focused on the right things.
However with your post and spelling like “loose” your jobs. It’s clear you couldn’t understand this if your job depended on it.
@3xe the thing is it's not as big of a gamble as you might think. (Except for what might happen with tarrifs) as the us builds more ethane cracking capacity it's the EU who shuts down.
@3tg
Too all of you posting about the affair, you are a bunch of ignorants looking for an excuse as to why you are loosing your jobs. How about you all look at yourselves in the mirror and think off all the the things you have failed to do. The problem with people is always greed and jealousy. Stop wasting time typing and start looking for a job. These people have families and bills to pay.
Here is a suggestion for all of you bitter employees, ex employees and no good consultants: wait for the next discriminatory raid and go join it. You will be able to break windows, steel merchandise, throw things and whatever else you can think of.
@3th it’s not just the existing leaders that made the decisions and analysis. The board also approved these projects to go forward. Keep in mind that anything major has to go through the board. Everyone knows that. They took didn’t see it coming apparently. It’s ultimately their money that was invested so they gambled big.
@3wx
Amen on dead weight! There are too many chiefs with engineering degrees with zero technical skills. Except for a few that are worth their weight in gold.
This has been a long time coming. Our Leaders are responsible and so are the employees.
Often time you walk around the office/plant and see people in their offices not doing much. Employees can do "just enough" to not get fired and hide behind others who are more competent that will do 80% of the group's work. This comes at a significant cost as we are unable to execute on key promises or advance the standing of the company with so much dead weight.
Other companies have more stringent performance assessment system to shed the losers who don't do anything. They also had layoffs during all the major economic events. The free ride is coming to an end.
Our Leaders made miscalculations and got us into this mess: overhiring, building large vanity organizations of nonsense, not holding leaders accountable for poor decisions, cr-ppy execution of major projects, incorrect prediction of the economic cycles.
Pickleball, D&I, PBD, employee affairs or whatever other buzzword doesn't absolve a complete lack of discipline and accountability both on the Leadership team and employees that has resulted in BILLIONS of dollars being lost due to inefficiency. Daddy Chevron isn't going to bail us out this time.
@3tj how do you get them out when they are protected?
You truly believe that all this is nonsense and reality is that most people there just work hard?
@3rn CPChem is a place of business. We do business ethically and with integrity. If you have people acting otherwise, get them out. Its not about making examples, it's about how we want to operate and the type of culture we want to be apart of, we all signed off on a code of conduct. I think you're the one carrying the pitchfork.
Corrupt investigations. Built HQ and committed to mega projects knowing the market was dwindling.
Where did they get the market research on these mega projects?
Why all the nepotism hires and job placements?
Why all the corruption allowed to continue in the upper leadership team, and HR? Who looks into their nonsense?
If there is a journalist I hope they post their email or contacts.
Making compliance investigations “go away” when there are multiple complaints on your boyfriend’s pals that he brought into the company is highly unethical. Must be a heck of a wienering to jeopardize your own morals, ethics, and career, not to mention the company’s reputation. So no, their behavior is not viewed the same because these two are on the decision making body for the entire company making rules that they are breaking everyday.
@3rd that’s the key right there. The shift in the culture changed significantly with these HR head hunters.
They’ve even got rid of their own when their discretions came out. H Kamer was forced out for something.
They in fact have hired independent consultants to conduct “investigations” and if you believe they weren’t instructed to get the result HR wanted out of them you are crazy.
Compliance Council needs reviewed.
HR needs reviewed.
My guess is since 2015 when the current compliance Head came on and brought her brand of “justice” there are a lot of potential law suits to the company lingering in some loose ends.
When your top leadership behaves this corrupt and unethical it is a foregone conclusion the company sufferers and the good employees under them.
Hopefully the board is reading this and will ask the right questions to get this company back on the right track again.
@3rn so which of these players are you? Mari cella? one of her buddies? So why don’t YOU get out of here? And don’t try to act like employees wouldn’t be fired for doing what your cronies are doing! Don’t come on here acting like we’re all stupid! You ALL need to be fired
@3rn Wow. So you compare a Sr VP and the top HR person playing hide the we---e on company time while setting rules of conduct that prohibits such behavior for all employees to low level employees and contractors as if it’s the same. Is that you B Can? Or maybe you are the HR lady herself? Turn on a light and the roaches run.
@3rn you must be HR or one of the guilty parties- these people didn’t misbehave on their personal time - it was company time and affected the company- HR hiding instances of this is just ridiculous - what good are they? Employees have zero resources for mistreatment - so which one of these are you? Employees misbehaving on personal time has nothing to do with any of this! Nice Try
@3rj oh please. How many non LT employees are misbehaving in their personal lives? Should we expose them as well? Are they now only worthy of a low performance rating? How about the contracting folks and their companies? Do you want to cut all the partnerships cause some of them might be misbehaving? Getting out the pitch forks and lighting it all on fire, makes you ignorant. What if the new leadership you claim we need is actually worse? Then what? Are you going to call the news again! Ppphhhh get out of here.
@3np Whoever submitted the photos should still have them. I say send them to every investigative reporter in the state of Texas. Let’s blow the lid off these id--ts. The only way this cr-p can continue is under the cloak of darkness. Shine the light on the vermin that calls itself leadership.
The “Mean Girls” culture in HR is real, and it has caused lasting damage to good and talented people!
The original trio fostered an environment rooted in fear and intimidation, not because they were strong leaders, but because they were too afraid to challenge the senior yt male executives. Instead, they turned inward and created a toxic culture that punished their own.
Now that two of them have retired, they strategically positioned a new line of successors to carry on that same harmful behavior. Despite multiple complaints, accountability remains elusive. Why? Because the investigations are either routed internally to the compliance team that reports up to the VP of HR or outsourced to “independent” law firms that are, in fact, paid by the company. So how independent is that really?
To those still working there: please don’t confuse the toxic behavior of the HR leadership team with the many incredible, hard-working HRBPs. There are some truly sharp, compassionate, and talented individuals who are simply trying to do their jobs and grow in their careers.
Unfortunately, they’re operating under a leadership team that has failed them and continues to protect a broken system.
Imagine preaching D&I and then HR standing idly by while B Can and his cronies bully women into submission … but I guess that plays when the head of HR is known to be “submitting” to him shameless while they ruin the company together.
@39x I agree with taking a cr-p on the pickleball courts. There was no need to build them when our company is hemorrhaging money!!!
@3nh I had heard they all were going to get outside counsel!!! Good Night!
Rumors were the Borger plant had outside counsel approach several people there and are getting ready to file.
Understand Han K had to retire early based on some underhanded things she’s done.
@3ne amen to that! I keep wondering what the person that brought MC and Can’t fields tryst to light must be thinking! It was all buried but surely the person that blew the whistle was wondering what happened ! And toxic managers? I know for a fact g good nights entire group threatened to get outside counsel due to the way she treated them- and yet she’s still here
@3nc they are definitely a shield for management. If you are the common worker forget it. You won't get any help. I guess they can even make photos dissappear despite calling the hot line for help.