Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

NJ Employees could be owed greater than 6 months severance under law.

The new regulations require employers with establishments in New Jersey to pay severance - one week of pay for every one year of service - to all affected employees even when proper notice is provided. If the employer fails to provide the requisite 90-day notice, the employer must pay an additional four weeks of wages.

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Another good reason our hubs are in Atlanta and Dallas…

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Post ID: @1pcc+1nhIoKfE

I’m a lawyer, this post is incorrect.

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Post ID: @1vgo+1nhIoKfE

To the person who wrote: Interesting. Helpful for employees but it will discourage businesses from keeping or relocating offices to NJ. This could have a bad impact on NJ economy in the long run.

Trust me paying a few weeks extra severance pay in NJ is not going to dissuade a company from moving their business to NJ. The hefty real-estate, taxes, etc. will. NK is one of the top 10 most expensive states to live in right up there with Calif, NY etc.

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Post ID: @1axe+1nhIoKfE

We just did a surplus with NJ and they do have a different timeframe. The company is following the appropriate time line so there will be no additional monies.

All other hubs report sept 5. When you received the announcement on May 16 that gave you 112 days.

There has been no official announcement to finance.

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Post ID: @swa+1nhIoKfE

The new NJ law says it’s an extension of the WARN act’. For whatever reasons, T seems to have been able to frame this as something other than a ‘mass layoff’, and I do not see any notifications posted to the WARN list. So they either don’t know the 60 day notice has changed to 90 days, or they don’t care because they are able to get away with calling it reorgs.
Idk if offering you a relo counts under WARN. Or perhaps they will stagger the NJ notices.

In any case , my severance is more under T’s policy anyway. Someone stated “most” T employees in NJ have 25+ years … not sure why they think they know “most” of the NJ employees, but I only have about half of that.

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Post ID: @icr+1nhIoKfE

I wasn’t notified of a layoff until 6/20 when I received the same generic email everyone else did. Prior to that I was only notified of a RTO policy.

NJ employees that qualify will get additional severance any way you look at it.

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Post ID: @jqd+1nhIoKfE

If they don’t give you 90 days notice you get an extra 4 weeks.

If they do give you 90 days notice, you get an extra 13 weeks.

Either way, ATT pays more to layoff NJ employees.

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Post ID: @jdo+1nhIoKfE

We just did a surplus with NJ and they do have a different timeframe. The company is following the appropriate time line so there will be no additional monies.

All other hubs report sept 5. When you received the announcement on May 16 that gave you 112 days.

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Post ID: @avb+1nhIoKfE

“So all you imbeciles on this forum think this company does not have an entire legal team to understand what they can get away with in each state? Ok.”

We know we have an entire legal team to do employment law. We just know they’re busy handling NDA lawsuits, bribery lawsuits, DIRECTV slamming termination lawsuits, ageism lawsuits, ADA lawsuits, and se-ual harassment lawsuits. Points for the “i” word, haven’t heard that since HBO Max cut all the funny Bugs Bunny episodes.

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Post ID: @fym+1nhIoKfE

Interesting. Helpful for employees but it will discourage businesses from keeping or relocating offices to NJ. This could have a bad impact on NJ economy in the long run.

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Post ID: @zvr+1nhIoKfE

So all you imbeciles on this forum think this company does not have an entire legal team to understand what they can get away with in each state? Ok.

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Post ID: @gyl+1nhIoKfE

No one could have predicted this. It is impossible for AT&T to do legal research from home. They can only maintain the status quo. They need to buy house with 6% mortgage rate in Dallas, drive an hour each way, listen to “Purpose” cheer squads in the lobby and engage in small talk with attention starved brown nosers in an open concept drop in space that reminds you of a 3rd world call center. Then and only then can you research “employment law” on Google.

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Post ID: @bez+1nhIoKfE

This law was created after what happened when Toys R Us employees got shafted. AT&T has a severance policy for eligible employees, and you would get that, but, if you’re in NJ you could also be entitled to more than 6 months pay per state law if you have over 26 years service. And I believe the 90 day notice refers to WARN notice. Ge-z, you can’t make anyone here happy, a law that protects workers is a good thing and all you can say is ‘guess we shouldn’t have employees in NJ!’ What is wrong with you people?

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Post ID: @ldf+1nhIoKfE

“Under the legislation (A4768), businesses in New Jersey with 100 or more workers must pay severance of one week for each year of work in the event of a large layoff or a plant closing or transfer that will put at least 50 people out of a job.

Companies are also required to notify workers of incoming mass layoffs within 90 days. That’s up from 60 under previous law.“

This law was written with AT&T in mind. We have 5,000+ management employees in NJ and at least 100 managers will be surplussed. Plus they’ll get an extra 4 weeks pay. I started in 1995 when Golden Boy was still in NJ.

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Post ID: @kpu+1nhIoKfE

thank OP makes sense and sounds like just a matter of time before all northeast areas of T are shut down and moved to right to work states.

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Post ID: @tek+1nhIoKfE

“So, I might be missing something, but if I'm doing my math right, it would only benefit employees with 21+ years of service?”

You are missing something. The vast majority of management employees in NJ are 25+ years of service. That why Stankey and the board are laying them off. They are old people. They cost more to insure. They need more time for doctor appointments. They earned their computer science degrees using Fortran. Stankey wants young people who will worship his bald head in Dallas and pay them way less with no long term benefits. #JerseyStrong

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Post ID: @skt+1nhIoKfE

Stankey made an announcement, no one received an official letter.

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Post ID: @ndl+1nhIoKfE

Sounds like a good reason not to have a hub in that state.

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Post ID: @jmi+1nhIoKfE

So, I might be missing something, but if I'm doing my math right, it would only benefit employees with 21+ years of service? And what if AT&T says "ok, we're just following NJ law", so instead of your 50% at 13 years, or 6 months of pay, you now get 4 months and 1 week? 5 months at 15 years? Am I doing this right? I'm saying it sincerely, I might be missing something, but to me, it sounds like it may benefit some employees and punish others.

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Post ID: @gme+1nhIoKfE

True story https://www.nj.com/politics/2023/01/nj-will-guarantee-severance-pay-for-workers-in-mass-layoffs-under-law-murphy-just-signed.html

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Post ID: @oji+1nhIoKfE

Sounds like the May letter from Stankey was your 90-day notice.

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Post ID: @nkp+1nhIoKfE

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