Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Should I stay or should I go

Hi everyone,
I’ve been exploring outside job opportunities and have two offers. The one I’m most interested in is a hybrid role with a 40–50 minute commute each way.

Ford offers great perks, like paid coursera training, which the new job doesn’t. I’ve been here a long time and enjoy my work as a software developer, but Ford feels like a ship lost at sea. A bit chaotic recently. I stopped feeling good about coming to work or logging into endless meetings.

Should I take the new offer and the new challenges and miss my easy job here or stay ant ford another five years hoping no big layoffs will happen? I contribute with the software I deliver for all the features I have, but doesn’t mean I am 100% safe from getting laid off.

Note: I am not looking for negative comments. Real advice only. Thank you.

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Post ID: @OP+1jgm70rd4

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This person is probably young as the job market is rough and getting a job now with good pay is tough... Ford will be circling the drain for next decade... you will be cut if not this year, your number will come up....

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Post ID: @q6+1jgm70rd4

Get out if you can. The mental and physical damage this company can inflict is immense, and it can happen at any time, without reason. Don't risk your health. The only things that are actually better than elsewhere are the short-term disability and available term life... I wonder why...

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Post ID: @ph+1jgm70rd4

@OP, There are great answers in the comments already, which I wholeheartedly agree with, but I must touch two points: age and new company.

If you are in the 20's or 30's, no matter anything else, I'd recommend only one course of action... Run Forrest, run!

If you are in the 40's, early 50's, and your skills are great or good ... run! If your skills are not good, and can be improved in the new place... run! If you are going to get stuck in a similar position at the new company, working with the same tools, I'd check the (size, income, main product, ability to survive a recession) of the company, and the insiders' perspective (glassdoor, reddit), and make a decision based on your findings.

If you are in the mid 50's or older, I'd put more weight on researching the new company. Here is the reasoning why. At that age, the company you move to would be probably your last one, since if you lose the job would be really hard to get another one. So you must be completely convinced the company would be able to go through a recession, and your position would not be eliminated (LIFO last in first out, especially when the "newcomer" is older and not expected to work 20 years more in the company).

In my case, I didn't leave in 2020 due to the reasons I just explained in the above paragraph. Ford should be able to sail through a recession (the Ford family will do anything to avoid bankruptcy, or they lose control of the company) and the F150 is still a good bet. My current position could be outsourced, but most probably it won't (at least a couple of years more). I have years of experience working at FMC, where most managers LL6 to LL4 in my area know me, even when some of them already retired, so no FILO applies. I am comfy, I have great salary, and flexible time allowing me to take my wife to doctor's appointments and more (at our age, doctors become our new "friends", since we spend more time with them, LOL).

Now, sorry for the previous lengthy explanation, that pretty much you are not going to use (for now), but I would like to add a fnal point... What's the catch with new job? If everything is really great, why are you still thinking about it? Are you really that lazy? Or maybe there is some other doubt? If you are doubting of your abilities, discipline and hardwork tend to hone those. If you are doubting because you think you would be missing a good place (Ford), you won't. If you are doubting because of the new company and you cannot defined it yet, replay the interviews in your head, try to find the subliminal cues that get you to the doubts. Maybe a phrase, maybe a tension in the air, maybe you didn't ask all the right questions (and you should ask them now, before accepting the new position).

Good luck!

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Post ID: @e6+1jgm70rd4

Stock down 23 percent in a bo-m year, EV is going nowhere, it's an F150 game and will end because buyers will be replaced with the young generation who don't even want a car or truck. LEAVE!

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Post ID: @dv+1jgm70rd4

I've been considering leaving for about 4 years and finally pulled the trigger. There are a few people I'll really miss working with but overall I've never been happier. There was a time I was genuinely challenged and enjoyed working at Ford but the last few years things have changed a lot. I haven't learned anything new in at least 3 years and the culture has changed immensely. Resources have been cut a lot in my area so everyone is burnt out and unhappy despite not learning anything new. For a bit it was nice that the work was easy but ultimately growing and developing is much more beneficial for your happiness and the more you stay stagnant the harder it is to start challenging yourself again. Plus being stressed about something that doesn't challenge you intellectually is horrible. I also stayed for the perks thinking I'll make better use of them then leave. I did that a bit but I ended up just coasting as much as possible for the most part and a more challenging position would've been better for my growth than the trainings.

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Post ID: @d4+1jgm70rd4

The commute will get old real quick...

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Post ID: @d3+1jgm70rd4

Run. I was in your shoes years ago. Placed value on perks that have now disappeared or were denied when I tried to use them. Passed up opportunities that in the long term would of removed me from years of the Ford hellscape.

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Post ID: @ab+1jgm70rd4

the problem w/ staying is that even a decent job at ford can rapidly spiral into bad when new management decides to reorganize everything. suddenly you get a new boss who knows he is smarter than everyone and you are the bad guy if you point out when he is not. those guys can sniff a challenger a mile away.

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Post ID: @a9+1jgm70rd4

Go and develop new skills.

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Post ID: @a8+1jgm70rd4

Go. I wasted the majority of my career there. Go do something else and challenge yourself. Ford isn’t going to do you any favors. Best of luck!

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Post ID: @a7+1jgm70rd4

Leave and do not look back. There is no point staying stagnant for an "easy job" here. The pay is medicore, culture here is non existent, and work in general is pretty bleh. Everyone I speak to is looking to leave.

Its better to challenge yourself and leave on your own rather than stay for an "easy job here" and get laid off and then be scrambling to find a job.

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