Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Intel to skip 10nm and ramp up 7nm in high production in 2019.

https://semiaccurate.com/2017/09/06/intel-bypass10nm-for7nm-2019/

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“Intel was the first to use 14-nanometer technology at scale in 2013, according to Goldman Sachs. It won’t have 10-nanometer ready for prime time until the end of 2019 -- by far the longest wait in its history. TSMC has gone from 20-nanometer to 7-nanometer production at the same time.”

Till 14nm there was a compelling reason to manufacture in TMG, since than if you needed density, power and performance intel has been going nowhere. Moore’s Law has stopped at intel but the mantle has been siezed and carried by TSMC

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Post ID: @7eypi+P95FdVM

Intel 1274 in 2019

nice

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Post ID: @7dwew+P95FdVM

4 years ago Intel promised 1274 in 2016, then 2017, and now maybe in 2018, 2019 is about right.

Billions spent each year on R&D and tens of billion outfitting the factories all sitting idle waiting for breakthroughs that were promised but still not happened.

Very plausibility to me 7nm will do a reboot and 10nm window is missed. Discussions are happening now on cutting the losses and refocusing all the resources on something with hope.

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Post ID: @2vim+P95FdVM

Repeating from two days ago:

I hate the term 'fake news', but this is indeed a fake link, and the thread should be deleted.

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Post ID: @2ggu+P95FdVM

the link doesn't appear to work, but this makes me think they're going to throw in the towel on nomenclature, call 10 nm 7nm (so it matches better with competitors) and push it out one more year to 2019 ;P

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Post ID: @2kva+P95FdVM

@P95FdVM-1dyi Want to ask BK where the intel iPhone7 modems are manufactured?

🙄😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😁

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Post ID: @1oev+P95FdVM

Intel designs on TSMC.

What a joke TMG has become.

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Post ID: @1dyi+P95FdVM

10nm delays and 7nm set up for more failure is a direct result of terrible leadership planning on 14nm.

14nm s---ed resources to finally make it, still late and far from goals but at least generating profits, but could have been so much more!

10nm definition was totally flawed and with the 14nm distraction the team was under resourced and is still totally overwhelmed and under resourced as 14nm and 7nm s--- 10nm needed resources.

Most of the world knows how working at PTD s---s big time and the only talent is all second rate that come and many are leaving if they can find a life boat. It is so bad that ITR have to be blocked and the only way is to leave the Titanic is to escape.

Total FUBAR for the workers!

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Post ID: @eei+P95FdVM

There is 7nm in 2019, but who told it will be in-house process?

I mean, you already seen that investment into logic manufacturing process for this year was exactly ZERO. (All investments are into memory, because this segment is growing, which is kind of dumb).

I mean, there is still not clear whether foundry 7nm or in-house 10nm will be used in 2019 (management decision in progress, engineering work is on track for both possibilities) but there is extremely low chance, that this 7nm in 2019 will be our.

There is chance, you know, BK might simply rename 10 to 7, but we hope he will not because it will mean total lose of face.

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Post ID: @yyf+P95FdVM

So 7nm is better than 10nm?

TMG is suddenly going to get their act together on the next node? 😂

Stacy Smith had the right idea.

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Post ID: @tvf+P95FdVM

PTD is so far behind on 10nm that they really might as well skip and save time, money resources and put all them poor souls working on 10nm on 7nm.

10nm is late and 7nm is slipping and not enough resources for both.

Better fight one battle and win versus two and be late and a failure at both.

Canon has missed the market window, Ice is very close to being late as well. Yields will be terrible on 10nm till at least 2019, so yes skip 10 makes sense!

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Post ID: @zzu+P95FdVM

I hate the term 'fake news', but this is indeed a fake link, and the thread should be deleted.

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Post ID: @jxj+P95FdVM

Yup supersonic makes up for intelligent design and execution. What is different now than two years ago when things were the same totally phucked

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Post ID: @xun+P95FdVM

PTD logic suggests that adding a Super or Ultra before HB would just make it run faster and generate that much more learning. And if Phi can walk along with the OHVs carrying the new S/UHBs then they will run at the speed of light.

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Post ID: @upg+P95FdVM

Don't matter how many HB1 are run the learning rate sets the yield improvement and there is a learning rate that even in the best of scenarios means 14nm will be the volume runner at the company in 2019, that means some serious ACTs are required.

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Post ID: @hsn+P95FdVM

Fake link

Real link

https://semiaccurate.com/2017/09/06/intel-foundry-customer-bails/

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Post ID: @hxq+P95FdVM

Go from late to never 🤣🤡

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Post ID: @gkd+P95FdVM

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