Thread regarding General Dynamics Corp. layoffs

GDIT BICS LAY-OFF

How do we know some people s— at management? Have a All Hands Call. Tell them we aren’t on the contract that supports their livelihood any longer and then ask them to help you close out cases by the 15th so you don’t have to pay the government back! 🙃 A surprise rif would have been better! Dumb dumb

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When I came onboard I specifically asked "How can no conflict of interest exist when we're doing BI's for the particular customer, with whom we support technically, while companies like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon don't have investigators?" I was told the "customer did not feel there was a conflict of interest." Now, after months of being strung along that we were going to bid that contract the company decided not to because we "had people supporting that customer in other roles." Meanwhile that contract's supposed to have been bid on my other companies who would get a certain percentage of the total contract awarded to them but nobody's hiring.

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Post ID: @1ylzt+10qFgLYb

So is the final date 09/01 or 09/15?

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Post ID: @lapa+10qFgLYb

Last poster is absolutely right the SVP Is young and should have NEVER been hired in a senior Vice President role. He does not have the experience nor have the fundamental basics to understand the contracts. GDIT is not in the “People” business as they continue to tout. I think all investigative contracts will be gone in next few months as it doesn’t fit GDITs portfolio nor do they care to keep these contracts.

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Post ID: @gegw+10qFgLYb

The OPM contract isn't the only one affected. Layoffs are happening all across the board. I was laid off from an Intel contract because GDIT decided they didn't want to bid after being invited to. They strung us along for months assuring us our jobs were safe. They even went as far as to say that lay-offs were not an option. Now we're here, and Peter and everyone in management look like absolute fools laying off so many people because of their own incompetence and lies. Disgusting business practices being done in the PVS division.

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Post ID: @ggvv+10qFgLYb

Surprise Surprise....Another RIF is suppose to happen again. We knew the end was near but for some people it is even closer.

I suppose they figure it is cheaper to pay the penalty to OPM than pay the leftover FIs. Seriously, screw this place.

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Post ID: @enlq+10qFgLYb

Just wondering, has anyone actually got hired by any of these companies that are saying “we are hiring?” I’m starting to think something is up.

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Post ID: @dyii+10qFgLYb

Get ready. We are done 9/1 now

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Post ID: @dobi+10qFgLYb

Man, they really screwed us over. Been doing this job for so long. Now here I am looking for a job and can’t find one! Especially not in this industry. If it wasn’t for the lies, we would have left awhile ago

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Post ID: @clnh+10qFgLYb

All these postings really show how messed up and greedy upper management has become. We have people who have left stable jobs on the promise of bigger pay just to be laid off next month. We have people who have dedicated themselves to the cause of National Security and our country just to be laid off at the end of the month. These people are vultures!

They have taken away our peers and supervisor month after month and they tell us we are the 'best". They should have just laid us off in a few months ago. The people that are left now to clean up this mess are in the worse spot. Whatever spot or job that was available months ago has no dried up. It is a buyers market out there and nobody wants to buy what we are selling.

Now upper management wants to retain us but not pay us if we don't have any work. How is that fair? Up to the very end they are still sticking it to us. My peers both reviewers and BIs lets all just stand up in unity and not submit work! Let them take our cases away! They will have to pay the penalty to OPM. To the very end, they are still trying to make money off our backs! I say no more!!!

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Post ID: @alkk+10qFgLYb

To the person speaking on experienced staff and them going on vacation. How exactly is management not to blame for that? This is what people are speaking about when it comes to experienced management! You should have let them go not continue on to destroy the contract! If we investigators could hire and fire we would be to blame. Who’s job is it to run the field? Also who’s idea was it to post on this site

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Post ID: @7xyb+10qFgLYb

Sooo Peter brought in to dismantle? Interesting! If that’s true, why CONTINUE TO HIRE?

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Post ID: @7jal+10qFgLYb

For those who were here from the beginning everything was going good. It was the massive ramp up in staffing that Adam did. there was no recovering from that and to think that program management had anything to do with this, shows how little you know about this business. there are layoffs at every company that is part of the business. These businesses get greedy, that's why they brought in Adam to ramp up and get as much of the pie that was available, knowing they would have to rif eventually. I know for a fact management fought against all this and wanted to do things right and they were turned down. The real issue here is the OPM workload dropped off. No work to go around someone's gotta go. just so happens GDIT had an executive management team that didn't want to fight the fight so they were first to bow down. I don't blame them, this is what happens, one day another backlog will form and they will be right back at getting companies to jump on the wagon.

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Post ID: @7bnf+10qFgLYb

Nobody here is asking the real question tho. After everything is said and done, where is Peter heading next?! I would like some direction so I know what company to avoid.

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Post ID: @7myt+10qFgLYb

Lol no we are not all to blame. My quality and performance were good. I am a good employee. I most definitely am not to blame. The training was horrible though. Doesn't matter though DOD is only having federal employees do the investigations come October anyway.

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Post ID: @6dao+10qFgLYb

At the end of the day, there is plenty of blame to go around for everybody. From the beginning we had far too many experienced field staff that took advantage of the lack of consequences for poor production and enjoyed their paid vacations. Throw in an understaffed Training Dept that was not capable of meeting the 150 Plan requirements, combined with a serious lack of communication between the PMO and Executive Managers, and you have a recipe for failure. The truth is rather simple; GDIT did not want CSRA for the BI contracts; they needed the IT contracts and we were the creepy step child that nobody wanted to deal with. They then brought Adam in to try to save the contract; when that failed Peter was tasked with slowly dismantling the program until we could finally withdraw in a manner which avoided unfavorable light upon GDIT. We avoided WARN actions by slowing decreasing work force below the required reporting levels. Now, with the skeleton crew that remains, most will readily jump ship for the first offer they receive and the rest will try to ride it out for the last paycheck. Read the policy on FUSE; there are no severance packages people. Your two week working notice is all you get. A lucky few senior staff may get something based upon their time with CSC, but the majority will not. Save up your vacation and take sick leave instead. At least you’ll get a little something for vacation time in your final check. So in the end, all of our complaining will be for nothing as the time has come to move on. Place blame where it is due, but also accept it where it is due. We all had a part to play, and in the end, we are all to blame for loosing the game.

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Post ID: @6fbt+10qFgLYb

Haha! I would say it’s those RM’s and PM’s posting blaming Peter.

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Post ID: @5qtc+10qFgLYb

Manager, please answer why they were still hiring in the west when the plan was to rid the contract. Of course we are blaming management. It’s not the investigators fault. The leadership failed us all! It is Funny that you would come on and defend the actions of your managers manager who I am assuming is the program director. That’s great you have the respect but as a manager do you really think that investigators want to hear that? Do you think we care about you having the utmost respect for your manager? If you are representing the management team answer the relevant questions that have been posted on here. In our heads you all couldn’t manage the program correctly and that’s the reason why upper management had to step in anyway. Sorry to say it’s not the VP’s fault. He stepped in because the manager and the managers manager and all of the other top heavy people who didn’t have a clue as to how to run this contract, screwed up! You all were so busy worrying about your titles you didn’t worry about the program. I’m sorry an investigator who has been doing this job for five years qualifies as a regional manager? In what world. What was the point of a Deputy Manager and a Program Manager? Why did you all have so many field supervisors? Why were mentors mentoring with two year experienced? Why were investigators coming out of NIT just as confused as they were when they started? WHY WOULD YOU HIRE THAT MAN A MONTH AGO KNOWING YOU ALL WERE CANCELING THE CONTRACT? Are you aware his wife died? You all coerced people to leave their stable companies and come over to GDIT knowing that there was plans of a rif! You didn’t just think it up. Answer those questions. This is not the time to convince us of hating the VP. It’s obvious he was sent in to clean up your managers manager’s mess

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Post ID: @5pks+10qFgLYb

I just want to point out as part of the management team, we were not told anything. This was all executive's management's decisions and doing. They held information and lied about direction to everyone. My manager's manager, who I respect more than anyone in this field had no idea what they were doing. I know for a fact that he fought against all these bad decisions and tried to steer them away from them but smooth talking upper managers drowned out his voice. I know we're looking for someone(S) to blame. but lets make sure we have the right people. I know there has been talk about the one who messed this up has been gone for a year but the idea was still being followed by executive management.

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Post ID: @5url+10qFgLYb

Looks like it’s happening today. No way they keep us on into September. All hands at 2pm. I heard rumors we lost the contract back in May when we dropped ISN. I didn’t believe it due to our postings for jobs out west. Now I understand that they just wanted us to close out the remaining cases. We’ve been lied to over and over, and I’m sure cutting people in phases was to avoid the WARN Act or at least to minimize the amount of people who will get severance.

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Post ID: @5zmd+10qFgLYb

To the person whose wife passed away, I am so very sorry. I wish I was someone in upper management so I could tell the people the harm they are doing. I care for my aging parents and do not know what is to happen to us. I hope everyone that was affected can find something else soon.

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Post ID: @5owp+10qFgLYb

I don’t know if anyone can speak on or help me to understand the WARN act. From what I understand a company has to give notice of the layoffs and it’s a 60 day notice. You are to be paid that 60 days. I cannot find anywhere that has a gdit warm notice recently. They gave us less than that. I’ll be calling the DOL to see why this doesn’t effect us and they can just do what they want. Under the SCA that affords is certain rights as well.

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Post ID: @5ijm+10qFgLYb

Aren’t there certain laws regarding a WARN notice when laying off all those people? It’s like a thousand I know. So where was the notice and what does it say about firing people with the intent of laying everyone off. Layoffs aren’t just thought up one night.

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Post ID: @5bql+10qFgLYb

I am so sorry to hear that. I hope that you find something soon! I too was “recruited,” in the west and I find it very strange that NO ONE knew that this was happening. It needs to be brought up by something

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Post ID: @5gia+10qFgLYb

I was hired 1 month ago. I was never advised of any layoffs or contract ending. I have yet to have been told by anyone in Management/Supervision that the contract was ending or layoffs happening. Luckily, I was told by some friends in the business (Not even GDIT) that this was happening. If you work for the companies upper management I just want you to know the following:

  1. My wife passed away recently (way to young at 30 years old)
  1. I have a toddler who is struggling with the new "life".
  1. I was vulnerable and needing help "at least" to make up for lost income and healing.
  1. Your recruiter hit me up in the midst of my turmoil and promised higher pay and stability.
  1. I left my stable position at another company.

You didn't just ruin a life, you buried one.

Thanks.

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Post ID: @4fsn+10qFgLYb

I don't know about you all, but I believe that they knew this contract was ending long ago. They hired people in the west coast to clean up their mess that was made with ISN. Why in the world would they fill those positions in California, New Mexico, and all of those other west coast companies just to fire them. Where is the morals. My friend was in the pipeline, and luckily they took forever and she didn't quit her job. I know people who I referred who have been working 90 days. Gave up their jobs to come and work for a company who KNEW that they were ending this contract. I know everyone likes the Program Manager, but why didn't he step in and say something. Follow him if y'all want, but all of upper management from the RM's up lack experience. I should have left two years ago but didn't now I along with1500 other people are scrambling for jobs. They should have just laid us off the first time instead of just using us. I wish there was a way to have a lawsuit against them. The VP blatantly lied to us! Lied so that we wouldn't quit. I hope that Management is not sleeping well at night!!!!!!!!!!

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Post ID: @4cvj+10qFgLYb

Completely agree. I’m finding it hard to give even a single fXXX about my cases right now. Exactly what makes them think that anyone is going to work their hardest.

The TDY thing was wild. A month ago, I was sent out of state. During that same time, someone from another state was sent to my home location. And as if it were some kind of joke, someone else was sent to their home location. Close to 20k wasted. They were intentionally trying to sink the contract.

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Post ID: @3smz+10qFgLYb

I went on TDY right before the last RIF and I struggled with motivating myself to do any work but I pushed through it. I got back home and started to type up my reports like a good little employee and guess what happens. They start taking back cases! What was the point of spending over 6K to send me on TDY?

I have a few mores TDY cases to type and I am having a hard time focusing. It does not matter how hard or little we work, our efforts are futile and we are losing our jobs.

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Post ID: @3gpy+10qFgLYb

That’s how I feel you want us to work hard knowing between now and the 15th we would not have a job

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