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Oracle's leadership doesn't know the cloud..

Business Insider: Here are 12 execs leading Oracle's cloud computing push.
https://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-executives-power-players-cloud-2019-7

Oracle's leadership doesn't know the cloud," he told Business Insider. "The top leadership of Oracle is largely living in the 1980s from the standpoint of the business model, and that model doesn't appear to work for cloud businesses."

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There's more than one cloud ... There's PaaS, there's IaaS, there's SaaS. And Oracle is in particular strong as regards the latter and has SaaS services to offer that MSFT and AWS cannot deliver. Moreover Oracle's customers have a choice whether to use Oracle SaaS, run Oracle programs on prem (something for example SalesForce cannot provide), in a partner data center, hybrid, i.e. much more flexibility than any other vendor can offer. One should really stop comparing apples with pears. Oracle has a very strong - and growing - SaaS portfolio and maintains robust security and operational practices in delivering these. At least, that's my experience.

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Post ID: @6krl+10rZ9EZ7

BB? Seriously? Lightweight focused on self promotion with zero apparent business sense. Some are good, most have not had an original,thought for decades. Zero customer focus from what I see and the continued push to sell rather than solve won’t stand up to, the market.

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Post ID: @2nuc+10rZ9EZ7

"The top leadership of Oracle is largely living in the 1980s from the standpoint of the business model, and that model doesn't appear to work for cloud businesses."

Absolutely correct - and having to live with the 1980s era edicts they are handing down is torture.

I was going to place their business model in the 70s, but 80s works.

This one will have to leave to get back to the 21st century at work.

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Post ID: @1tfm+10rZ9EZ7

They didn’t understand the businesses they acquired either, only saw them as IP purchases with everything else as an afterthought or to be grudgingly accommodated.

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Post ID: @1kru+10rZ9EZ7

Here is another factor. Too many Oracle customers hate Oracle. They are locked in using Oracle products for a variety of reasons but would never transition to another Oracle product. Between the quality of product and support and price for licensing, coupled with those highly intrusive audits that border on extortion, you companies that would jump to another cloud company once they are able. They got away with it because they were the only game on town and now that they aren't it is biting them. Also you are going to hit market saturation where growth will no longer be a factor. Now you are competing for the same pool of customers. and the issue of transitioning and trust in the company in which you transition

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Post ID: @1mbl+10rZ9EZ7

Their leadership knows what’s cloud but they simply have no capabilities to build one

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Post ID: @1ibm+10rZ9EZ7

"Oracle's leadership doesn't know the cloud"

That sounds spot on.

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Post ID: @1cyi+10rZ9EZ7

Companies that win the cloud are the ones that invest heavily in cloud infrastructure such as Amazon, Microsoft ; it is certainly not Oracle.

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