Thread regarding Optum layoffs

Can you foresee your layoff?

Are there any signs that are present days before your layoff, that could have indicated that you would get cut? Any different behavior from your manager, anything different in the assignments that you’re being given…. In short, is there any way you could see that your layoff is coming?
I would appreciate if people that people that got cut in this round posted, or their coworkers that are familiar with the situation. I understand that it’s a tough time for these people, so forgive me if I’m adding salt to the wound (not my intention). In any case I wish the best of luck to the people that fell victim to these layoffs.

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No signs or warnings. Employees were called as soon as they logged in and were told they no longer have a job. They were told by their supervisors who may have not known more than a day. Upper Management, nurse managers, nurses, IT, project managers and administrative employees. Still trying to figure out how they selected .

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Post ID: @3trp+11V2fbHj

As said elsewhere, "If you get invited to a mandatory meeting on a Tuesday/Wednesday.. DECLINE IT!" Or, don't respond. Walk out of building with company laptop and get off company property before meeting. Get all your personal c-ap out of computer bag, then call your boss from off site to confront him/her. When you get the news, chew his/her butt out for a few minutes, and dictate to them where and when you will return your company property. In my layoff, a consolation prize was not letting them humiliate me by walking me out in front of my former staff and colleagues. I didn't care about burning bridges, since I was retiring. And I didn't care about leaving behind the few personal items I had at my desk. Of course I lost the war on layoff day, but I was lucky to dictate the terms of how I was going to turn in company property and finish my on-site out-processing from UHG.

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Post ID: @ufu+11V2fbHj

As a manager, we know about impending changes or chatter at least a month before sometimes two before those affected will know. But it is against rules to tell employees and we will be punished if caught leaking it before top mgmt has announced. Your Managers and Directors are just doing what they are told. United and Optum have been bringing in executives from completely different businesses and it has not worked out well. Many are simply friends / former colleagues of already moved over executives from those outside industries. Leadership also loves Ivy League on your top leaders resume even with no healthcare back ground or work history but they want to think of themselves as a company that can get that talent over elite Financial and Tech companies. United has gotten an arrogance about them since 2010 when the stock took off and they thought they could make no errors in judgement. Their growth by acquisition have been failures in many areas and it impacts other groups because money must be found to offset those losses. There are huge political headwinds and a Public Option will at least be more widely available in the next 10 years or so. Whats funny is their own local liberal politics have them right in their cross hairs.

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Post ID: @ged+11V2fbHj

When almost all sups are on unannounced PTO last week and now again this upcoming week (and the queues are actually crazy, the replacement teams must have a few days off) - you know sh–s about to go down. They’ve stopped giving a sh– so why should we? Production is in the toilet along with morale. They need to get it over with but I think they have pushed it back a little because the replacement teams still don’t know what the he’ll they’re doing despite being trained daily for the last month or two. Good luck and good riddance, unfortunately it will be the patients and prescribers that have to deal with this mess from here on out. They’ll see a huge increase in prior auth denials. Maybe when high dollar medications are being blindly approved in error and it starts affecting profits they’ll see.

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Post ID: @bsh+11V2fbHj

I'm still employed, but there a lot signs. I'm in DSNP, and many clinicians and some of the care navigators either left, got fired, or started jumping ship earlier in the year. They haven't hired any new RNs and BHAs, due to a hiring freeze. Everyone is overburdened with work and frustrated. I read an article about dual special needs plans being impacted by recent Medicare sanctions, so I know more cuts are coming. There's a sense of panic in the air. One of the directors threatened the teams in her area to get their mess together or else the program is going to shutter. That same director is now gone. It's only a matter of time before we are next.

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Post ID: @jgo+11V2fbHj

If you get invited to a mandatory meeting on a Tuesday/Wednesday.. DECLINE IT!

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Post ID: @gnh+11V2fbHj

I'm still employed, but the signs are clear. At this point, I know some of us are getting laid off, and just hoping it isn't me. Clues... Director says "...look at opportunities if you don't like the direction the program is going... I've never had to dismantle a program before..." and the membership we're expecting to serve as of 1/1/20 is about 20% off what were serving now. Other buzzwords "flat lining" and "sun setting" aspects of the program. There's no way all of us will be kept on board, yet director says, "I don't want you guys to worry." Oblivious or lying?

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Post ID: @lgw+11V2fbHj

I have yet to be laid off. What I've learned over the years is that it's what one doesn't say that should be of concern. A lot of talk with no depth in my opinion can be or is the writing on the wall. Months ago there was a town hall or something to that nature and I thought "something isn't right". Well here it is...the "isn't right" was layoffs with more to come. I looked at the Equian careers board this morning to see if I could gain any insight into any overlap for similar roles. With that being said, take the time and have a look the Equian career board for yourself and determine if it may affect you in the future. I noticed some similarities to my role so I fully expect some changes in my dept. What am I going to do? Try not to stress and be more aggressive with my savings than I already have been. I've been through a layoff before and they s—. I'm hoping that everyone affected by this finds something quick and better than the last gig. I'm hoping that this does not have a huge impact to the extent that people lose what they've worked hard to obtain. I'll be saying a prayer for all involved. Enjoy the upcoming holidays to the best of your ability and try to stay as positive as possible. (I'm very nervous but I need to stay positive in order to stay sane)

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Post ID: @jyd+11V2fbHj

Yes there are a million signs
Your told directly your program is under review
Your top leaders stop communicating with you or tell you to “stay curious”
You need to update every possible part of your job Incase you died tomorrow
UMMMMMMM I am not pleased by this termination I was prepared and the writing was on the wall 100%

What I am disappointed by is the way this company lets poor leaders be VP”s etc

From what I see they must of went to school 15 years ago or more they are irrelevant and boring. The communication is substandard and they created the programs and they are the reason the programs failed. If you are getting a if of a department and not the top leaders you are the one making the mistakes and they will repeat.

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