Thread regarding Windstream Corp. layoffs

Windstream could have been like Cincinnati Bell at one time...

With Cincinnati Bell looking like they will be bought for $2.6 billion dollars - https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizengel/2019/12/23/cincinnati-bell-acquired-in-26-billion-deal/#4c30d10e49ca, it is sad to remember that at one time Windstream could have been in a similar situation before they started buying all those companies and becoming the mess they are now.

If and when a company does by them, it certainly won't be for the billions of dollars that will be paid for Cincinnati Bell, instead it will probably be for a few million dollars. At one time Windstream's debt wasn't as nightmarish as it is now, back in 2008 they were doing decent compared to today's Chapter 11 Christmas gift to its employees. A shame the management (still TT!!!) went on a buying spree of companies with hardly any value - in return WIN was loaded with much more debt, and old legacy equipment they won't change out.

But let's reward TT with a 'retention bonus' because he did such a good job of ruining the value of a once billion dollar company to now worth more than.....????

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"In 2018, Cincinnati Bell earned $69 million in profit on $1.38 billion in sales. You can still make money in the Ilec business if you’re well run. "

We make a ton of money from ILEC. It is the CLEC (ie Enterprise or Cloud and Connectivity) that is losing hundreds of millions a dollars a quarter.

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In 2018, Cincinnati Bell earned $69 million in profit on $1.38 billion in sales. You can still make money in the Ilec business if you’re well run.

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Cincinnati Bell stuck to its knitting.

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LR5 talked the board into alot of bad decisions when buying other CLEC's. and that compounded the debt load. I think the expectation was synergy savings with the combined companies and that takes years not months to realize.

The big pivot to get out of 50 CO's and shut down the TDM network isn't happening as fast it should. Our debt exceeds our overhead and cost savings initiatives.

There really isn't alot of value in WIN, no facilities or outside plant, All we really are is a services company with billions in debt. If another carrier acquiring our customers it isn't going to make them a long term investment.

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