https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/21/oracle_cloud_fake_sales_allegations/
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Interesting will be to investigate the Oracle corporate compliance and ethics direct involvement in cover up
One of my greatest frustrations during my time at Oracle was the belief that LJE, MH, TK and SC (and their direct reports) were intellectually dishonest about the quality of the cloud business. Deal quality, process quality, product quality, support quality. They individually and collectively chose to act without regard to consequences that were both predictable and predicted, and later complained about those consequences.
You can’t have it both ways
TK was a foul-mouthed, belittling disaster. If you were a consulting engineer he knew you by name and was polite in meetings. If you were a senior VP or EVP it was a constant string of F-bombs and insults. Never ending abuse. Plus he could not stand hearing the truth which is why TK was always lied to.
This is great, they've got an email from TK:
The latest amended complaint is full of unflattering statements about Oracle's cloud technology. For example, it quotes an October 2017 email that Kurian, as head of product development, wrote to EVP Steve Miranda and other senior execs about the poor interface for Oracle Human Capital Management Cloud.
"I want to make sure that the entire HCM dev[elopement] organization understands what a disgrace your UI [user interface] is and stop living in denial on that," Kurian wrote, adding:
I continue to get extraordinary pressure from our two CEOs [Mark Hurd and Safra Catz] and LJE [Larry Ellison] himself that the UI [user interface] is not tenable – that state is your collective responsibility and we should avoid pretending that there is not an issue ... the core product UI [user interface] is awful.
Until you all collectively accept the mess you have made and the need to move quickly we are talking past one another.
Kurian also said the interface was so dismal that a longtime Oracle customer, Netherlands-based Rabobank, refused to have anything to do with it:
This loss [of the sale to Rabobank] has nothing to do with the demos that were done in the past few weeks but with the fact that the UI [user-interface] was considered so atrocious even back in July that the bank questioned whether they could even put this in front of their employees. I showed them R13 UI [Release 13, the latest cloud update] myself and the feedback was blunt that even that is not competitive.
Wow, so TK knew it was c-ap, and so did LE. But to the investors they were saying it was wonderful.
Oh for F sake...
“ Until you all collectively accept the mess you have made and the need to move quickly we are talking past one another.“. — TK
Who was in charge of the UI since JW was canned early in the Fusion project (2008 or so)? TK.
Who was in charge of building the UI technology (ADF Faces) that limited Dev’s ability to actually build working UIs? TK.
He has never accepted any responsibility for the mess HE created. He’s the worst excuse for a manager I have ever met (and yes, I have, many times).
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