Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Promised internal transfer in Dec 2019, now redeployed due to politics. Legal recourse?

I am a high performing (previous years SL2) design engineer in OR working in an IP development group. I knew I had to escape my old group back in 2019 as my 2LM had it out for me. I had a transfer all set up with another sister group all within the same org. Since it was an internal transfer, my new manager didn't need a req and if headcount was to be flat, it was supposed to be easy.

I informed my old group beginning of Dec 2019, and there was an email saying that my start date was to be beginning of Jan 2020. I took off on a long vacation then in Dec as I had no more responsibilities in my old group. I came back in Jan 2020 and noticed I still hadn't transferred in the org chart. Ok, I thought, no big deal. I was told some focal tool was shut down and transfer would happen eventually. Lo and behold, my old 2LM calls me into a room and tells me with a smirk that I was being let go due to the business unit not needing my skills anymore and was saying I was being blamed for some recent attrition in his org due to behavioral problems. There are more politics involved I won't get into.

My new manager can't do anything. He has no req and if headcount is supposed to be reduced and not even maintained flat, I can't transfer to him he says. This is pretty horrible. If I would've known I was to be fired back in Dec, I would've started looking for a job then, not now with more talent flooding the market. Do I have any legal recourse here? I have an email clearly stating my start date with the new manager/team clearly to be beginning of Jan.

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Post ID: @OP+13a6vPWR

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Does anyone have the "Arbitration" agreement we signed a few years ago? I was let go 12/30 (not 12/31 so they would not have to pay the 2 bonuses!)

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Post ID: @7vys+13a6vPWR

It's a nasty situation, I'm sorry you have been treated this way. I was laid off from Ronler Acres in 2013 and I was advised against going legal as the damage outweighs the benefits. Make sure not to alienate your network of former colleagues as you'll need their references, keep your connections alive. Keep in mind - they will be pressured to avoid communicating with you. Collect everything that you still can save - emails, recognition awards, stock grants, whitepapers and move on in search of a better employer. Intel is a brutally cost-efficient, arrogant self-obsessed employer with sweat-shop mentality towards employees at every level. You can find a much greener pastures but you might need to leave PDX booming sprawl. Good luck! And from now on - BCC all important emails and keep a personal copy of all important docs. Once they take your laptop and phone all your intel-based info will be forever closed to you.

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Post ID: @4cpy+13a6vPWR

@2dtq+13a6vPWR'

Wouldn't redeployment just by itself be seen as a career limiting on your record? I do remember one certain senior leader (last I heard involved with security) who mentioned being redeployed three times, so maybe not.

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Post ID: @3mnx+13a6vPWR

Legal recourse is a career limiting move, IMHO. Managers and leadership stop trysting you and it leads to low quality project, grunt work, etc - people will stop wanting to associate with you.

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Post ID: @2dtq+13a6vPWR

Why would talking with HR even help? They are there to protect the company, not care about the employees, and if it's at-will employment, there is nothing they would be willing to do.

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Post ID: @2afk+13a6vPWR

Do not assume anything ... Talk to HR. Bob swan is trying to change this very culture... (managers with no accountability... towards products, intel values and finally above all how we treat one another...) ..worst case; nothing happens ... it is where you are at today.

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Post ID: @2wtw+13a6vPWR

Lay-off is legal for whatever reasons. You are not able win unless hard evidence of discrimination. Fire is different, company need your wrong doing to do so.

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Post ID: @2rnq+13a6vPWR

I was in similar situation back in 2015. Had two job offers from Oregon and AZ and they still caned me. Non of the law firms would even answer my call.Intel hasall of them on thier books. Who is going to fight the big Gorilla unless its the big dogs for the class action. Basically the one lawyer that talked to me said If I was the only one let go and there were grounds for discrimination blah blah blah then I had a case. Even then it would take two years to go to court and you had to show how much money you have lost. If you find a job tomorrow there is no $$ loss so what will you ask for damages for? Moral of the story is rather than posting on this site start looking not only in Oregon but all over the country. Perfect time for a change. You will look back in couple of years and tell yourself how did I ever work for a sh—hole company. I got a job that paysthe same as Inhell and started my own company. Don/t fight it just accept itm be strong and move on and good luck.

BTW, after couple years when I did some sole searching I was the one to blame for losing my job.

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Post ID: @2lvv+13a6vPWR

Companies are allowed to rescind offers and it is employment at will. Even if you had moved to the new group, Intel could have go of you in a day and legally it would be fine. Im not a lawyer but I dont think there may not be much to explore here. You might be able to harass your mgrs a bit with a lawsuit and get them in a bit of trouble with the HR. But why? My suggestion is just walk away. Keep the doors open in case you will end up working for them again.

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Post ID: @1xua+13a6vPWR

@1euz+13a6vPWR

Wrong, Intel management views anyone who isn't slavishly loyal and obedient as expendable.

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Post ID: @1gxc+13a6vPWR

OP, listen very carefully. If your valuable skills and talents are being dismissed, for what ever reason, you need to accept this, and move on. Look for another job outside. I can speak first hand about how Intel Management views employees: 100% expendable if you are not in the critical solution path. This goes for just about any company. Although, Intel has an ugly habit of tagging valuable talent as future no-hires.

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Post ID: @1euz+13a6vPWR

Honestly, you can try obtaining a lawyer but my guess is legal recourse will be a Hail Mary. Most states are at will employers so they can literally part ways with you for any reason they see fit as long as it isn't things like religion race gender etc...But as with one of the other comments, pick a law firm which is likely outside of the given vicinity as any in the vicinity will likely not go against Intel. Good luck and sorry for the situation you're in.

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Post ID: @1jpq+13a6vPWR

OP: your old first-line mgr did not talk to you? Why the second line mgr talked to you?

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Post ID: @1vog+13a6vPWR

Move on. There is life after Intel.

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Post ID: @1uqm+13a6vPWR

@1pzp+13a6vPWR

Going against an Intel manager is the same as going against Intel. HR will defend their terrible managers to the end.

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Post ID: @1wft+13a6vPWR

if you try to get a lawyer, then try one not local to your town. All the locals will not go against Intel.

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Post ID: @1arb+13a6vPWR

Legal recourse against Intel Corp, doubtful. Legal recourse against 2LM, maybe, bring that sorry loser to civil court and sue his a– for libel (i.e. providing false written statements IF you can prove it)

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Post ID: @1pzp+13a6vPWR

Save that email as a separate outlook attachment, forward it to your private email and take it to a lawyer for advice

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Post ID: @pqa+13a6vPWR

Just move on and put it behind you. Sour grapes and bitterness get you no where. Sorry

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