Thread regarding Optum layoffs

Is anyone safe?

Currently a top performer and I have always been. I used to think that performance was a key to being “safe” and now I’m seeing posts / comments that even top performers are being let go. How common is this?

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Post ID: @OP+13aRrX7R

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Performance didn't matter in my case either. Direct level managers, directors and VPs really don't have a say in the decision. It comes from higher up and is based on some random formula.

If you or your manager has been asked to make a list of the 3-5 key things you do and what percentage of your time each week is used for doing these things, then they are evaluating job roles in your department and the number of people that are needed to do these things. This would be done outside of the MAP/common review process. I remember doing this in Sept and then was part of the Oct layoff at UHC.

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Post ID: @atsn+13aRrX7R

It was never about health care or improving the life of patients-that was corporate window dressing like the walls posters of yo this and that and smiling employee (wage slave) faces. It was simply getting as much money as possible for shareholder, owner, and wall street profits. The happy songs were US corporate propaganda–the singing, the dancing, the t shirts, the teams, the nonsense, the working hard, etc.

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Post ID: @3cdz+13aRrX7R

Well - I was a 29 with 18+ years with optum. Several ratings with a 5 and never rated below a 4 ever. Years of 12 hour workdays and frequent weekends. The majority let go on my team 12/4 were 29s in upper
40s and 50s (Ages). Cutting those with dedicated longevity at higher grades. Piece of c-ap company...

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Post ID: @3wzw+13aRrX7R

Lots of mgmt 29 and 30 grade also. I personally know of six that were gone after like 12 to 15 yrs of service. If your a lower level you may have a shot of getting put into another group that needs people that were gonna be external hires.

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Post ID: @3yoe+13aRrX7R

This is a money numbers game only now. Not about patients, healthcare, improving lives and all that other c-ap they give lip service to in these corporate rah-rah shows. This is about money for the top dogs and the stockholders. Your a– is grass and they are the lawn mower.............

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Post ID: @3xuf+13aRrX7R

Top perfomer scores, awards, sang the company song, danced to the company beat, believed the owners townhalls, went to corporate meetings where we sang, danced, wore smiley shirts, screamed our love to the corporation. Guess what happened? Yo Dumvita!

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Post ID: @2pvg+13aRrX7R

What’s considered high paid grade 27 & 28 ?

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Post ID: @2pul+13aRrX7R

If you were pay grade 27 and higher, you were on the chopping block. They look at getting rid of high paid employees first.

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Post ID: @2udb+13aRrX7R

what about all the yo davita, healthcare partner optum? all the singing, the wall posters and singing? You mean they don't give a rip about their employees?!?

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Post ID: @1qvg+13aRrX7R

Most companies do this. I was laid off from a company because I was paid more than most - negotiated high when I came in. I had even won a prestigious award while there...it was the bottom line they were looking at though. The highest paid got the ax first.

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Post ID: @1tpf+13aRrX7R

It is much more to do with your salary versus your performance. They would rather cut the salary than keep the performing employee versus someone being cheaper. I have not been involved with the stacking but if it is going on than being in the middle is the safest spot. I am not sure at which grade level the stacking is being used or in what areas. Your direct managers etc likely have no say and are being put in a very difficult spot.

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Post ID: @1ltc+13aRrX7R

Whelp this is depressing. I too thought I was ok because I am recognized as a high potential top performer. Guess not.

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Post ID: @qvd+13aRrX7R

It all depends on where you fall in your peer grouping in terms of salary. If you’re in the top tier for wages you’re more at risk in this climate. That information isn’t readily available so there’s really no way to know unless your manager has alluded to it. I’m in the same boat, top performer doing the work of two people and likely have a target on my back because I’ve been compensated for doing my job well.

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Post ID: @ooi+13aRrX7R

Totally true and common. They get rid of the high performers because of money and they take good advantage of getting rid of low performers without need for the CAP process.

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Post ID: @njo+13aRrX7R

Very. I was a top performers for most of my 10 years there. They don’t care.

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