There is very little interaction between instructors and students in Google classroom, It wont be long before every student realizes that the online courses which are really hastily made videos are the only way for UTI to keep the money flowing. It's impossible to learn a trade by ONLY watching a terrible video. I can't wait to see the result of the rush to complete labs when the students are finally allowed back to the campuses, If I were a student I would not go back. I would also demand a refund. If I were a furloughed employee, I would realize how little UTI really cared about me. I would not return to the job if they asked me.
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The poster below "Done" is right. Like I stated on another post, community colleges are now offering certificates, so anyone can get a trade school education quickly, inexpensively and without wasting time taking history, literature classes etc. I've seen community colleges offer SMOG training, welding, diesel, automotive technology and actual MSAT programs. Do that for $22 to $35 per unit- how can UTI's $30,000-$45,000 tuition keep competing with that. If a student is low income they can basically go to CC for free without having to take out loans or a parent loan. Plus, by getting a certificate at a CC, students would earn units that could matriculate at any college if they later want to get an AA or BA/BS degree. From what I was aware when I worked at UTI, their units only matriculate to other for profit schools like Univ of Phoenix that are basically debt holes.
I recommend for the remaining UTI employees to seriously consider new work, new opportunities or even a new industry. Hang in there but look for other options and have a plan B.
PS: my college is not struggling- "Done" is right about that as well.
Yes. All colleges are going through a very difficult time right now but the traditional colleges have alumni and huge endowments. The community colleges are basically subsidized by the local tax payers. . In the past during recessions technical colleges benefitted because people wanted quick skilled jobs without taking years to complete. However in this economy if people choose to go to school they will m9re than likely attend community colleges as much cheaper. I believe the High School Representatives will be most impacted as they will get allot of cancelled students as parents wont want to take parental loans on. Also in the fall High Schools may not allow representatives to come in over this virus. If I was a Field Admissions Representative I would be prepared to be let go as if revenue wasn't there from this summers class the higher ups will be in desperate situation to make the next few class starts and not worry about a class start a year later with the HS students.
A large percentage of students will not be back. And it is hard to tell when some campuses will be allowed to be open.
So lets see. Enrollments are tanking. Many currently enrolled will return post COVID-19. This is not going to end well.
But it isnt just UTI students that aren't going to get their tuition worth. it's EVERY college right now. You could go on to comment on every college's layoff page and say the exact same thing.
It's relevant. But its outside of the schools control.
The economy has tanked. Yes we know. But its tanked everywhere in nearly every industry.
It's just part of the economical system.
Despite the apologetic comments (at least they kept people furloughed and keep benefits etc etc, we should be grateful/stop complaining), I wonder a few things.
Could it only be a matter of time some of those furloughs become actual layoffs. Do we honestly really think all those jobs will come back? Are the executives getting furloughed too or taking paycuts?
I don't work at UTI anymore, I left and am working from home at a great company. Had I stayed at UTI I'd be very worried right now.
If I were a student with loans or parent of a student who took out a $15,000 to $25,000 parent loan for their kid, I would temporarily withdraw. There's plenty of YouTube videos that can show you how to fix a car. Why should anyone be paying UTIs expensive tuition right now for videos they can loon up elsewhere. Withdraw and if they really want to come back, do it when the campus reopens and you can actually get hands on training.
That's my suggestion to the students and their families. It's not cheap, those students are going to end up paying like $200+ in loans every month, they better get their moneys worth. I'm sorry I don't have solutions to keep the company profitable, I care more about the tuition paying families.
As an outsider looking in with knowledge of staff and company operations, this is an ugly time. On one hand, many of the support staff that have been overwhelmed talking with students and parents during this time trying to keep them up to date as to what is next. But many of the instructors have had little work until now but continued to get paid a decent salary just to show up and put in their time. Now that does not apply to all, but some instructors were paid quite well for how much daily work was done.
Finally, the company had to make some difficult financial decisions. Revenue dropped drastically. But take notice people were not laid off. Instead they were furloughed which kept benefits in tact in hopes of bringing them back.
But some people seem to think that UTI is a bad company because of this. And it appears that many that complain here have little knowledge of the big picture. Like with any business, you are hired to make the company money. The company did not hire you so they can provide for you and your family. That is your job. A company just gives you an avenue to do so. And with many businesses that are struggling, difficult decisions have had to be made all across the country and some may business may never reappear.
So as an employee of UTI, you can chose to be one that constantly b–ches but provides no real solutions. Continue to complain about leadership and their salaries and see how far that goes. And if that is your feelings, I am sure many people would ask why you are still wanting to work there. Maybe it is time to move on.
And for the others that still have the passion, many of you have good ideas. Maybe it is time to look at ways to benefit the company which would benefit you as well. Especially now when it is not "business as usual." Being part of the solution sure beats being part of the problem.
I get that times are hard and you can’t please everyone. I am happy to still have a job but We can’t hide the truth that things will get worse before they get better. The chaos that is about to ensue once we get these labs going is going to be a bigger beast than When we started online classes. We have students that are out of state that need to come back for one class. This pushes back housing lease dates, VA students will not get paid, students can’t get official certification of completion until they are caught up. A lot of people are going to be very upset and we will most likely lose a lot of students because of this. They should have found some sort of loop hole to allow graduates to turn in some sort of video that they can get credit for the labs and tests should have been allowed online . At least for the March and April graduates. We are making it a lot more difficult than what it needs to be during this already difficult time,
Students will be suing us for refunds for sure. It's even going to get uglier when our loan default numbers go through the roof. Auto mechanics are being laid off in droves. How in the world can we recruit people in good conscience in a profession that has been devastated?
Well what else should UTI do in a crisis like covid 19.
They complained about being open.. so they closed... teachers complained about furlough.. so they tried staying open.
So what should they have done?
If they closed entierly and stopped the program youd be laid off anyway.
I can't agree with all the decisions.. but there isnt a whole lot they could do.
Yeah they got 33 million bailout but that doesn't replace but maybe half the revenue they would of had... And some teachers think they should of laid off all the managers instead of instructors... As if the instructors are going to organize and regulate the reopening without management available.. lol
And no. I'm not a corporate hat or anyhing other than a instructor that's happy to be teaching again finally.
Some students are suing other schools because they want a refund on their tuition. I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens to UTI because a lot are complaining about the poor quality of these online classes.