Thread regarding Macy's Inc. layoffs

In other words Inglorious b–tards cannot change to Glorious Heir – however hard they try. You cannot change the basic human character. Watch Sopranos.

To answer the question, MST (really Federated because Federated bought out Macy’s) was a mashup due to the acquisitions. As the companies were merged their tech was connected. Instead of moving to one companies stack/process, custom integrations were designed. In addition all the fiefdoms (Mason, JC, Lorain, Bloomys and eventually SF ) were allowed to do what they thought was best without a centralized strategy.

Too late ...

Well, you can learn from past mistakes.

There is no need for historical analysis. If the top leadership does not have technology vision then technical mediocrity gets built in systematically. This happened in last 50 years in our society – tech vision has gradually become a core existential skill for company top leadership.

Would Macy's fate have been different if they had not become a contractor/H1B shop?

Think about MST in JC. They had all possible databases: Oracle, Db2, SLQ server, and Teradata.
In years, they could not get rid of any of those (to save millions in license fees). Also, they were never be able to get rid of legacy applications running on the mainframe (Cobol).

Can anybody give me the history of MST? How did it get to such a mess?

The retail space is shrinking as the biggest and most innovative companies drive ineffective businesses out of the marketplace. Advancing technology is the primary catalyst for the evolving retail space, and as technology continues to progress, so will consumers. The retailers that will thrive in the post-pandemic world are those that are able to quickly adapt and stay one step ahead of consumer demands.

Definitely. Based on my experience, I’m convinced that anyone who stands in the way of more contractors being brought in gets retaliated against and pushed out. This includes FTE engineers as well. Want to do high impact work on your team? Too bad, it goes to some contractor. Want to brainstorm technical architecture and next steps of the project? Too bad, the project manager will steer it in the way of contractors so that they will need to bring in additional contractors to get the job done, with no regard whatsoever of whether it’s the correct technical solution. That’s why M is such a toxic place for FTEs, and competent and honest people.

"@6atb+14wy8uJY, keep your posts kosher and it won’t get nuked."

"If you stop telling lies about me, I'll stop telling the truth about you."

"@6atb+14wy8uJY, keep your posts kosher and it won’t get nuked."

You ... yes You! suspiciously sound like a Mod / Teacher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U

@6atb+14wy8uJY, keep your posts kosher and it won’t get nuked. There are thousands of posts here about H1B (simple google search can prove it) . Thing is, it’s a hot topic, the conversation often gets heated, and mods scrub the posts that contain foul language, personal insults and derogatory language towards groups, as that’s against the website rules.

For Macy's is Dead (would not bounce):

I do not know. I do not remember that post frankly. I would have noticed it, as I have seen first hand the quality of work of H1Bs at MST and the damage they made.

But it was not fully their fault. A lot of all-American directors, manager and VPs, who saw engineering as a cheap commodity, were responsible as well.

The other problem I saw at MST is that technical talented developers were not promoted into higher positions (who were then taken by non technical incompetent people).

"Left MST because talented and technical" – do you know why the thread on leveraged indentured labor via Indian dominated H1B was removed??

https://trak.in/tags/business/2020/04/08/upto-90000-h1b-visa-holders-can-be-forced-to-quit-america-mass-exodus-of-h1b-visa-holders/

I think this subject is fine as long as you do not mentioned specific name and make clear allegations of criminal conduct.

The other thread on Indian H1B scam was removed – that's is why I say this site (thelayoff.com) business model is to closely work with corporate HR (besides whatever as revenue they can muster).

This website (thelayoff.com) closely works with company HR (and gets paid). That is why Naveen post disappeared ...

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I guess the manager was getting a kickback or something. I have been on some interviews with "foreign" hiring managers and you could tell they had no interest in hiring you (it was just to show they tried to hire local)."

Often these people are coached by Macy's HR on how to interview so that legal records can be kept on citizen / permanent resident opportunity denial. You have to understand that H1B labor is prized asset in corporate America since they can be counted on for absolute loyalty. Money often is not the issue – it is the leverage of loyalty that makes H1B indentured labor so attractive.

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"Furthermore, most of these contracting companies wanted to bring in more H1Bs and short term workers. I can think of many times where we wanted to hire someone but a manager would parachute in and decide that the candidate didn't meet their standards. A few weeks later the offshore contractor would have 2 new hires starting work on our projects."

I guess the manager was getting a kickback or something. I have been on some interviews with "foreign" hiring managers and you could tell they had no interest in hiring you (it was just to show they tried to hire local).

I have no idea what the kickbacks looked like, but one thing I'm sure of is that there were/are lots of contractors who were working on solutions developed in house at MST which were "stolen" and then sold to other retailers via Offshore/"consultants". I know for a fact that a contracting company on the stores and fulfillment side resold/reused/stole solutions developed in house to other clients.

Furthermore, most of these contracting companies wanted to bring in more H1Bs and short term workers. I can think of many times where we wanted to hire someone but a manager would parachute in and decide that the candidate didn't meet their standards. A few weeks later the offshore contractor would have 2 new hires starting work on our projects.

I won't name names but the company starts with a K. I'm sure there were kickbacks, but the people who penned the deals have long left and the companies have been sold to other companies offshore years ago. They made their money and got the hell out of that sh–show.

I wish macys would do something about it, but they won't. too many other issues and all they want to do is cut corners.

Who really cares??? The reason it was outsourced to begin with is the payroll was too high. Is it sad, Yes. However, many companies do the exact same thing. I wonder what will happen to NCR when the company files for bankruptcy? They will lose money from Macy's big time!

The kickback is there but it will be carefully covered. It is not easy to expose – Cognizant was caught based on professional investigation. I not sure you will get that kind of information here.

Responses to this will be interesting. It’s a reality with many pockets filled with $. The transition to the new tier one vendor set MT back many months. A solid knowledge base one week and a depleted knowledge base the next week.