It seems ADP has announced upcoming layoffs. It will be insensitive in such dire times for employees
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@Rqeu+1518EPFn: I was furloughed for 6 weeks. They brought me back 2 weeks early in a new position, different COE. My previous job family was eliminated. I do believe the plan was to lay me off, but one of my leaders thought my skills would fit in a new initiative. The roller coaster ride continues...
I know those in my office in the RPO SPACE originally furloughed, did end up getting laid off the next round. I believe they might have brought back a few.
While I agree with the previous post, I wonder if all the furloughs are now layoffs in this new Fiscal Year? Anyone have any insight? When they said furloughs originally my first thought was it was a temporary thing to avoid some type of reporting/filing regulation.
Great Perception from @3bzq+1518EPFn:
“And watch as the "furloughs" turn into layoffs in coming months. This was an act to cover their actions and not have the street react as negatively and prop up financials a tad more until fiscal year end.”
from what I heard in my division it was just a way to get rid of people the VP didn't like
Uhm, I don't think any manager being forced to "give it to you" will have the integrity to stand up to their manager and support you. Truth is the truth doesn't matter now. It is all spin to buy a little more time for those up the ladder.
If layed off, ask your manager or HR what criteria was used. If its on the up and up, they will have no worries giving it to you.
I’m actually glad an email was sent out in advance, rather than being blindsided. The communication was very clear, but it appears some on here didn’t comprehend the messaging. Comments regarding being hounded and crept in my management... not sure what division you are or were in, but my experience is the complete opposite. We’ll make it out of this, hopefully sooner than later.
You are exactly right. ADP top management has adopted a fear instilling mindsight. This happens when people in positions are ineffective and desperate. And ADP has a lot of ineffective and desperate!
It has indeed been highly intentional to "broadcast" out the layoff and furloughs at this time to create anxiety and hope that people at home will through fear peddle like hamsters on a wheel to somehow dig ADP out of this bad situation that the CEO and his feckless team have put it in. It is desperation loud and clear. ADP's position in the market has never been this weak without knowledge base, crumbling products, extremely p-ss-d off clients, and pays down more than ever due to the business landscape and closures.
The CEO has always feared being the guy at the helm and ADP becoming like Kodak or the typewriter. He has stated that on many occasions. The funny part is his actions accelerated and almost has guaranteed ADP being hurt severely that may be years and years to stop the bleeding.
And last comment: Don't believe any spin that thing are getting better. Layoffs are an act of desperation and management blunders and the attempt to "fix" financials due to prior bad management mistakes over time. There are more layoffs already planned and are coming. And watch as the "furloughs" turn into layoffs in coming months. This was an act to cover their actions and not have the street react as negatively and prop up financials a tad more until fiscal year end.
Based on my experience at ADP for almost 30 years, ADP thinks that a frightened workforce is a productive workforce. I have seen plenty of evidence for this strange belief.
So tired of how badly they treat their associates... 3 days in and we don’t know if they have spoken to all affected. How do they expect us to be productive as we sit and wait to be axed!
It disgusts me that given the current state of the US, and world for that matter, that a company that claims to be in a good position, will lay people off because we still have shareholders to please. Why must something like that still rank of high importance over keeping the economy going and your employees employed, even if it could come down to the cost of his own job when all is said and done. He is so far ahead of the rest of is financially, why must we be the ones to be $hit on? My opinion of ADP at the beginning of this was favorable, now it's turned to disgust. Good luck everyone.
In my particular division it seems that they furloughed those that had been here less than three years or so. I have been here 15 years and am also homeshored, I was untouched as were many of my peers in the same position. It’s very strange. You would think they would have went after the more tenured employees. The whole thing is very unsettling.
Guidelines to eliminating people are based on longevity, compensation, and pensions, as well as remote workers and home-shored ones.
If you have been with ADP a long time, are earning a decent salary, are vested for a pension, are in the US, and are working from home, then for each one of these factors, your risk goes up for being terminated.
What guidelines did ADP claim to use to determine who stayed and who goes within the groups affected?
So sorry for anyone affected. As part of the 2018 RIF, I know how painful job loss is, especially when not expected. It has to be awful to have this happen in the midst of the financial meltdown caused by the pandemic. My best to any and all of you.
I was one of the 112 impacted in the learning organization. I was furloughed for 60 days. I've heard only of furloughs, no layoffs. I suspect it's because I will be let go after the furlough. I think they furloughed to keep the cash on the books for the end of the fiscal.
In my division (RPO) we only know of furloughs. Does anyone know where the actual layoffs were ? Or have they happened yet ?
Has anyone heard of lay-off or furlough impact to sales?
I was furloughed for 4 weeks - I worked in Client Training - and it was the very tenured employees. In our entire Learning Department about 100 people were furloughed or their hours were reduced.
Sreeni Kutam (Chief HR Officer) has an agenda and it seems American workers are not part of the landscape of the future for ADP. World Class? Ha. ADP has been duped by BCG and they have now lost most of the knowledge base of ADP.
I just can't believe they sent an email first saying what was going to happen, before they told those that were being let go. Why make everyone nervous wondering if it's them? Shouldn't you let people go first, then make the announcement? Not the other way around, with a, hey be on the lookout for an email from HR.
@1wdn+1518EPFn Was told they completed it all Monday. I know there were furloughs in RPO.
i believe they have until end of day tomorrow to let everyone know.
Anyone know if everyone has been informed yet? Stressful long sitting waiting for that email invite
It’s not over- “transformational initiatives ” are still part of the strat plan- brace for it.
For those affected by this what business unit are you in?
Yes, SBS will be affected. Most all BU's will have direct impact. If you have been there for any length of time and make a decent salary and have a pension with ADP you are a target. It will be inevitable regardless of your skill or position. It is part of the plan McKinsey laid out for ADP that the executives bought into. The coronavirus just put even more pressure on to cut expenses at any cost. The 1000 people targeted yesterday were just the immediate reaction but more to come.
Will SBS be effected for lay offs !
@1yiq+1518EPFn 2 months in and there are cuts we are likely to see more. The economy is not forecasted to bounce back anytime soon. However no one is hiring except grocery stores and maybe some factories. Looking for a job right now in our sector will be near impossible.
ADP is an earnings first company. With sales dropping and looking worse ahead, they have to cut expenses to prop up the earnings. Contractors and Employees are the fastest and easiest expenses to cut with immediate results to the bottom line. Maybe better days ahead but not anytime soon.
I was furloughed yesterday (5/18) for a month. They pay me the rest of this week, then my furlough starts 5/25. It goes through 6/19, with my return date set for 6/2×. But that could be extended. They will call me 5 business days prior to 6/2× to let me know if I will come back then, or if it will be extended. If you have insurance through them, they will pay your portion of premiums up to 90 days through the furlough. If business does not improve and they can't bring us back, they will give us 4 weeks' notice plus severance pay and 6 mo ths of subsidized health care. They gave us a link to apply for an ADP Cares grant. And they said they will not dispute any unemployment claims.
I was a CRM in the RPO.
Morals and character are what people respect. I guess it is clear why no one respects ADP's executives. More layoffs are planned. 4+ years of layoffs so that the executives can try to pretend to be a tech company instead of a service company tells all. I hope everyone is searching for a better more respectful place to work because this management has lost this company.
What folks need to realize is that at the end of the day the company needs to answer the investors every quarter. While the past quarter may have been "profitable", it is very unlikely the current quarter is going to be profitable.
It is naive to assume that there were not going to be any reductions. Equally naive if we assume that there won't be anymore.
It is sad that even a company like ADP is having to do this. Would be good to know how much the exec cut their own pay and bonus though. That would show a lot of character.
ADP brand like other brands that are abandoning their employees in these times will be remembered and pay their price. Good companies protected their employees through this year at minimum. Not ADP, they don’t fit that class of brands and they will be defined by their actions now. Entire world is suffering - they chose to add to this suffering. Shameful !!!
Same thing happened in 2018
We were told profits were up.
They would never layoff the most tenured CSC's (some over 20 years)
And then came the conference call
Carlos was very short and to the point
We had 60 days notice
We were one of the first waves
If you think your safe, trust me you’re not
Sales are down. Clients in the pipe are canceling and wxisting clients are opting out of enhanced features. I. Addition, clients pay based on the number of WSE they have. Thise are down.
I'm not sure it matters anyways. They will send all the US jobs to India one way or another.
Carlos, is that you?
UNION!?!? Please don’t do us any favors! Before you start thinking about unionizing you’d better do your research. First of all, Unions cannot prevent lay offs. Secondly, we would be numbers to a Union in the form of the union dues we’d have to pay. And for what? Having some stranger who knows nothing about us or ADP negotiating on our behalf? No thank you. If you work in the northeast or west, and you vote to unionize, your legacy site would be shut down and your jobs sent to a Suoercenter faster than you can say Jimmy Hoffa. If you work in a Supercenter and vote to unionize then there goes your higher pay and benefits because the negotiations would start at zero and go no higher than the average wage in your City location. Unions are only good for taking your voice and your money and protecting low performers and dirt bags. No thanks! I will take my chances without a Union and continue to be a top performer and get paid for my performance rather than get the same 1.5% that everybody gets if they are in a Union.