Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Working From Home: "Abundance of Caution" OR An Outsourcing Exploration?

Not sure if "abundance of caution" is the underlying reason for the Work From Home or if there are other considerations....

https://business.financialpost.com/legal-post/employees-loving-their-wfh-set-up-beware-your-jobs-could-be-outsourced-to-remote-workers-in-other-countries

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They send the job to India because it is cheap, then India can't do the job, so they come back to the business people to fix it but you've already cut my workforce. Eventually, it will all hit the fan when there is no one left in the US to fix the issues.

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Post ID: @ktkh+15GDnx9S

Definitely told my kids to avoid auto industry.
The days of competent management are long gone.
Now we have the duck and cover management team.

Someone tell me how this makes sense
They encourage / push senior technicians out the door.
They replace with fresh out of college hires.
When they realize college hires don’t have the knowledge and skills, they hire senior level contractors at a 2 to 1 ratio of the prior senior technicians. The contractors do all the work, but managers claim the college hires are doing the work when they report upwards. I know this makes Ford sense somehow and so I keep my mouth shut. Like previous poster I think Ford is nearing implosion. The managers are not truthful reporting upwards which compounds the already poor decision making capabilities of upper management.

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Post ID: @4jzq+15GDnx9S

Well if you look at the balance of hourly vs. salary! NA PD Interior trim initial work done up here then given to Ford of Mexico after VP builds. EESE Similar commodities same thing. plus Mexico has design resp. for current model. Payroll is now handled by India. So this model will continue. Odd the UAW was given 4% raises the next 4 years vs the salary average of 2%. Plus Jim Hackett was given a $18mn dollar bonus but the lower ranks received 52% of their target. BTW Most of those items they have zero input. So I hope the furniture guy enjoys his millions? Another trend to notice. How many families are telling their children to avoid the auto industry for a career? after 5 years This company unless there are drastic changes at the top will be lucky to survive as is.

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Post ID: @4jqb+15GDnx9S

On a macro scale, I believe corporate financial planning is similar to the way we do our own personal finances. We decide what we can live with and live without. In both situations the decision is biased however in the end the goal is the same, to achieve some sort of financial success.

Regarding the post, I have to consider how much I actually contribute to producing the actual product. Production plants aside, the more removed a position is from producing the actual product, the greater the likelihood of that those positions will be considered for outsourcing or just elimination.

Prior to my Ford layoff experience of 2008, I was with a company the reduced it's workforce by 20% in the early 2000's. Both companies bounced back without any long term effects. In both instances, the further removed a position was from the producing the product, the increased likelihood of layoff.

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Post ID: @2bse+15GDnx9S

Once the train station is identified as a symbol of privilege ( after all , not everyone could afford to go someplace on a train and be attended to by porters ) it may have to come down instead.

Can’t you picture Bill and Jim pushing the plunger that blows it up ?

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Post ID: @2pni+15GDnx9S

Maybe they can re-purpose the train station into low cost housing or a COVID hospital??

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Post ID: @2hqq+15GDnx9S

When my boss found out I was applying for a mortgage for a new house, he cautioned me to make sure I was financially prepared in case the economy continues tanking, but I definitely read more into his words....

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Post ID: @2rch+15GDnx9S

All they need to do is learn to speak English without an accent. If Ford wants to be the most inclusive company in the world, it would seem that would require hiring people in all regions of the world, not just in and around Dearborn. Ironic that Ford World HQ is in Dearborn, which is known for being one of the least inclusive cities in the US.

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Post ID: @2qly+15GDnx9S

@gdw+15GDnx9S I am sure they still remember the GM/EDS fiasco. 100% outsourcing wont work, but sending most of it to Chenai sure does look good on paper. The business customer is the one who is going to suffer if that happens.

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Post ID: @1hwk+15GDnx9S

You bet it is. Virus has moved society forward around ten years in a matter of a few months.

Bean counters are salivating at eliminating office space while sourcing talent from around the world to the lowest bidder without offering any benefits.

Lavish American middle class will be destroyed. Service work jobs will be all that is left.

So glad I will not have to participate in the madness. I fear for my kids, however.

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Post ID: @1aow+15GDnx9S

I'm surprised they haven't outsourced all of IT already.

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