Heard that Cummins has already started restructuring. That’s usually the first sign before layoffs start. Any news?
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Good riddance Trisha Rogers.
"It’s all about how well your manager can argue on your behalf."
Well said. You get doubly f—ed when you get put "on loan" to another group. If your "real" manager is fighting on your behalf, they don't have a leg to stand on because they weren't actually supervising your work. If your "temporary" manager is the one fighting for you, they'll use you as a sacrificial lamb because they have no vested interest and/or it opens up a spot higher up for their actual peons.
The forced ranking system (1-2-3) has nothing to do with your performance. It’s all about how well your manager can argue on your behalf. If you have a manager that can be a pit bull in the consistency ranking meetings they hold with their peers you’ll come out gold. If you have a weak manager your screwed.
MBA textbooks outright say this system is flawed. It’s only good and cutting costs. After 3 years it become demoralizing and it loses its effect on people. I was taught that 12 years ago, and Cummins still does it. They don’t give a sh– about employees. They only care about $.
If you work there, quit caring about the company and start caring about yourself. Update your resume and get out.
is darlington going to shut been on the hit list five times ?.
Amazon likes to hire from Cummins and they are expanding right now.
In everyone's deep mind, they have been just collecting paychecks bi-weekly till receiving generous (yes generous) severance package or immigration India-chin visa approval. Who care? No one.
Has been the worst 5 years at a company ever. They use fear to lead people, and manipulate to get what they want at that immediate time.
Exactly, exactly what is going to happen. Pay cuts in Q2 and Q3 with layoffs in Q4 even for hourly you just watch. I never even considered this a possibility but it can happen, because this year is a bust for Cummins and they know it. They are trying to find where they can cut costs.
Q2,Q3 pay cut. Q4 layoff.
Columbus or the distributors?
What location?
Layoffs are here. Time to flee!
It has begun .
Let the games begin
Please be aware. If you quit of your own accord, you won’t get severance or unemployment. Sometimes you can come back later though - usually not.
They often layoff their best people and everyone knows this - it won’t keep other companies from hiring you. Their competitors will welcome you!
Just get out as soon as you can! Better going of your own choice, than feeling like a loser being let go, regardless if you are a high performing employee or a supposed “victim” of the economy.
I can tell you that everything said above is true.
However until employees “vote with their feet” they will get more of the same treatment.
Really sad to see a once great company fallen by corporate greed. CEO compensation tied to stock performance causes sociopaths to get rich.
The sick thing is that eventually a company gets a reputation as being a bad one to work for or show loyalty too. I bet eventually if not now they call Cummins a fortune 500 sweat shop.
Cummins does RIFs about every 3 years. Don't believe me? Check their records. They are not above doing them more than that if it suits them. They hire like crazy, then let go of the senior people doing the training. Then start hiring again about 6 months out. They also have a 1-2-3 review system. Less than 5% of employees can be 1s, even if they deserve to be a 1. Most are 2s. 3s are let go. Only have 5 employees in your group and all are doing 1 work? Doesn't matter. Someone HAS to be a 3. And decisions are made by people way above the workers that don't even know what they have to offer.
I personally know a small department that was just wiped out. They were all excellent employees with quite a bit of tenure, but were not allowed to find employment elsewhere in the company, even though there were groups hiring. Cummins also has something called a block. You can be blocked from moving to another department if your department deems you to valuable to lose. Then, if your department is caught in a RIF, you are not allowed to move to the department that wanted you-you're just gone.
Also, if you are let go during a RF (or with cause), you can never work for any Cummins, any division, anywhere globally, ever again. Even if you were a 1 employee.
We were told years ago that they wanted 70% of their workforce to have been there 5 years or less-to keep costs down and to get fresh "new ideas." Instead of trying to manage to keep those that have been loyal to them for years, they do RIFs. What really s—s is that some of the years they did RIFS, they still had record profits going into it and still paid hefty bonuses.
I do not like Cummins and it's management although I have been working here for around 10 years.
A RIF is on the way regardless and before the election I believe. If they are still having issues they have to do something. Also remember the fall is coming and many of the industrial companies see that time as reduced work and add that to what we had at the beginning of the year and also still high unemployment and many companies going bankrupt, we are going to have problems.
If President Biden indeed taxes corporates at 28%, Cummins will use that as a convenient excuse to cut more jobs that they would anyways have. Just like they used the steel/aluminum tariff related expenses to have RIF last year.
Started? Has it ever truly stopped at Cummins? Just look at the major restructuring they did to start the Components business, only to dismantle it a few years later. Then look at the undertaking to buy all the distributorships, only to dismantle those as well. Cummins is always restructuring, with nobody at the helm that has true vision.. At least not since Miller was around.
In addition to Covid and the usual mismanagement at CMI....just read that a future (?) Pres. Biden would raise corporate taxes back up to 28%. Don't think for one moment that the CMI Leadership Team won't cut heads to meet this new tax rate and keep the stock up.
CMI employees are always expendable.