Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

Going back to office

We were told today that in NYC once phase 3 starts we are required to rotate going back to the office at 240. Same thing supposedly is going to happen in Pittsburg.

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Oh yeah, Jan 1, 2021, and then we can STAY from home permanently - after getting laid off.

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Post ID: @qoio+15LIZLkq

New post on MySource from Todd says majority of staff will keep working from home until at least January 1st, 2021.

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Post ID: @prxi+15LIZLkq

Yikes! Seriously!?! Is this back to the office full time for all? ...or a call in to lay us off?

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Post ID: @iaum+15LIZLkq

Wow! So glad I don’t work in Wellesley! This seems like a very short sighted decision by management there if this is true!

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Post ID: @ifwm+15LIZLkq

Managers in Wellesley (Data & Analytics) were informed today to tell staff that the return to office date will be Tuesday, September 8th.

Small size of office along with Wellesley, MA having one of the lowest infection rates in the nation were major drivers.

PPE will be mandatory and partitions have been installed between desks.

Everett and Westborough to follow on October 5th in best case scenario

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Post ID: @iiou+15LIZLkq

I don't miss the open coughing and sneezing

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Post ID: @9kls+15LIZLkq

I don't miss the boogers on the bathroom stall walls.

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Post ID: @8zus+15LIZLkq

@7qhy+15LIZLkq

I see you have been busy posting rather than sitting at your "desk all day doing your job as you're supposed to be doing", and not roaming the boards. Good luck with the career.

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Post ID: @7qfs+15LIZLkq

What a bunch of silly responses, mostly of course, by young selfish millenials who have no clue about family life. Go sit and watch a movie in your tiny 1 bedroom apartment (and do it on company time)

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Post ID: @7aru+15LIZLkq

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What do you do with your toddler when you're in the office?? There are many options for childcare.

Yes, talking to colleagues can be very disruptive. From your comments and language, you are most definitely a drama personality. I see it now...you at the office popping in at a colleague's desk unannounced saying "I have a quick question". Because of your drama filled life, that poor colleague has to listen patiently to you telling your woes for the next 45 minutes (because lord forbid if s/he is not a team player). Then because you don't know how to do your job, will spend the next 30 minutes holding your hand through how to perform a function you should have figured out on your own. But it's easier to ask and disrupt someone else as long as you get what you need, right? That person then needs to go home and login to finish their work because you took up over an hour of the day for nonsense.

This new reality is showing the competent workers and, in your case, the non competent workers for who they are.

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Post ID: @7qhy+15LIZLkq

Working from home... hmm. Who's paying from the additional electrical costs? Who's insuring you if you hurt yourself "at work"? Who's paying your broadband bill? And once you have covered all those, who's making sure the broadband providers aren't charging you more for using their product for commercial purposes? Where are the insurance companies recovering the costs lost through office insurance policies? How do you feel about tax rises to cover the additional welfare costs until the old industries (coffee shops, restaurants, bus companies, office cleaners) are replaced by new industries? Big industries are going to come out on top - utility companies won't just shrug their shoulders and say "ah well, we'll get by with smaller revenues", no, they'll add the costs to homes and make sure they come out better off. We, the workers, will not be financially or emotionally better off in the long term.

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Post ID: @7efl+15LIZLkq

@7zpt+15LIZLkq, wow, you are clueless, you must be one of the many emotionally unintelligent managers employed by this company. Everybody’s at home/work life is different. You sound like you do not have young kids or at home. You sound like you are a man. You sound like you do not live with an Elder at home that you care for. You sound like you are not balancing health issues with yourself or your family or your kids. You sound like you do not have to pretend that you don’t have distractions at home. Grow the f up and have a little empathy for your fellow co-workers and and think of other situations rather than just your own. Not everyone walks in your shoes.

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Post ID: @7cxh+15LIZLkq

"That tiny one bedroom apartment is actually roomier than sitting at an office desk all day doing your job as you're supposed to be doing, and not roaming the office floor disrupting other colleagues."

Ah, so speaking to colleagues face to face is " roaming the office floor disrupting others". but stick pair of headphone on and its "collaborative technology".

What exactly is that god-awful job that has you sitting infront of a screen all day long, never moving until home time? And what toddlers is it you know with phones looking after themselves all day when their parents are in the office? Try realism, you may like it.

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Post ID: @7qaw+15LIZLkq

@7pwu+15LIZLkq

You'll need to adapt or be lost to a technology driven world. Most companies are moving toward being fully remote. If it's a problem concentrating because of noise, get a noise cancelling headset. You can use it while on conference calls too.

If, as you say, a person took a job "to get away" from their home life and problems then they are likely not productive in or out of the office setting. An office won't stop that person's kids from calling throughout the day, or magically make problems disappear.

That tiny one bedroom apartment is actually roomier than sitting at an office desk all day doing your job as you're supposed to be doing, and not roaming the office floor disrupting other colleagues. Just saying.

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Post ID: @7zpt+15LIZLkq

Someone wrote; Can you give an example of work that can't be done remotely? You're probably replying to the person that said "some of us can't work from home". Different thing. People took jobs on the basis that they would be going into an office - away from the toddlers, away from the tiny one-bedroomed apartment, away from the family problems, away from the 3 other adults in the house all trying to work from home, listening to the neighbours yelling and babies crying. Great set up for work. If you want the working environment to change, you need to redesign the job.

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Post ID: @7pwu+15LIZLkq

You say wait till the spring. I say wait to the fall. But we have several seniors who seem to buy into the 'open the economy at all costs' DC mindset and want some of us hear starting next month.

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Post ID: @7dtw+15LIZLkq

I don't feel safe goin back this year. Wait until the spring. We won't know who has the flu or covid this fall and winter.

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Post ID: @6htz+15LIZLkq

These managers talk out both sides. It's no wonder no one is on the same page. First the manager says no one in our organization will return until September 1 and it will be in phases with essential in office personnel as phase 1 but then thirty seconds later says essential in office staff are returning mid August. Huh????

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Post ID: @6cml+15LIZLkq

Can confirm no staff are needed to go into Pittsburg.

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Post ID: @5fds+15LIZLkq

@5vqc+15LIZLkq

That's the entire problem with this company, you, middle management.

Google, Facebook, and Apple (all I would consider as successful companies) have said they are going to remain fully remote. Our own company has increased productivity since going remote during this pandemic.

Middle management is an unnecessary expense that can be eliminated with minimal impact. Middle management simply act as blockers to real productivity. Collaboration is so easily handled remotely now with technology. This isn't 1990.

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Post ID: @5lvl+15LIZLkq

we were told aug 15 rotating one out of 3 days

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Post ID: @5nqy+15LIZLkq

I'm a member of middle management and there's this little thing called collaboration that there is no substitute for other than being in the office.

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Post ID: @5vqc+15LIZLkq

You think people working remotely spend all day watching Netflix. Fascinating.

I bet you micromanage your employees but have no idea how to do what they're doing.

You're that person who wants to be in the office but can never seem to find your desk. Slacker.

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Post ID: @4jut+15LIZLkq

Sorry if I ruined anyone's visions of grandeur whereby their Netflix watching and day drinking may be compromised by actually having to restep foot into the office. Can you find it in your hearts to ever forgive my rudeness?

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Post ID: @4pla+15LIZLkq

I wouldn't feel safe or productive being forced back to the office before next year at a minimum. There's still allot we don't know about this virus and symptoms keep changing.

There's no way to social distance during the commute for employees taking the bus or subway. Nor even riding the elevator to their floor.

Large conglomerates don't want the liability if an employee expresses concern then upon being forced to the office ends up contracting the virus or taking it home to an at risk individual. Imagine the repercussions to the company if that employee sues for healthcare expenses or death as a result of the company's decision to bring employees into that environment. Don't agree to sign waivers to enter the office!

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Post ID: @4toy+15LIZLkq

Yes I can. The guy who slices the bagels in the cafeteria cannot WFH.

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Post ID: @4tki+15LIZLkq

@3srl+15LIZLkq
Can you give an example of work that can't be done remotely? Other than jobs, such as opening physical mail or paper (which are fast becoming obsolete), everything is able to be handled remotely. You may simply need better guidance on how to be successful remotely.

The only other explanation is needing to be physically present to s— up to management if the work results produced won't speak for itself.

Being remote has allowed for greater diversity and created an atmosphere where talent finally gets praise over the office kiss up.

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Post ID: @4qoa+15LIZLkq

Some of us can't work from home as what we do is needed to be done straightforward, in the office. I for one cannot wait to get out of my house and back to the office. Can't come soon or fast enough.

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Post ID: @3srl+15LIZLkq

95% of the company has been working remote pretty much since March. Why even have near term plans? Especially with the open office configuration, unless they have plans to blow up that awful decision. How about waiting until next summer? What's the harm?

My team is spread among three states and India. Only three of us worked in the office and even then we mostly interacted virtually due to the office config. I was already working from home two or three days a week before covid and it was great.

I do hope if they stupidly go forward with this, you can opt-out and remain working from home full time.

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Post ID: @3wov+15LIZLkq

Mention how horrible of an approach this is on the next Peakon survey. BNY Mellon needs to get with the times and move to a fully remote five day schedule for employees.

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Post ID: @2dpk+15LIZLkq

Just another bad decision made by this fledgling company

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Post ID: @1und+15LIZLkq

they told us rotate 25% of the time starting aug 1

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Post ID: @1wgl+15LIZLkq

Who told you that? We were told that it may not be until January and the model is changing drastically.

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Post ID: @1and+15LIZLkq

If they require employees to return before all lockdown restrictions have been lifted and a vaccine is readily available then at the very least require everyone entering the office to have covid testing at least 72 hours before entering the office and each month thereafter showing a negative result. At the company's expense of course!

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Post ID: @1xro+15LIZLkq

Most businesses are moving to full time remote environments. Only BNYM would do something to put employees at risk and not seize the opportunity to become an employer of choice. They won't ever recover from this negative perception and be able to attract new talent. Why would anyone choose to work for an employer who has full remote capability, but instead opted to force their employees back to the office. It shows incompetence on the part of leadership and inability for their management team to manage a remote workforce.

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Post ID: @aph+15LIZLkq

That would be a bad move on the part of the company considering the increase in Covid cases since states began reopening. Many are going back to yellow phase and businesses are closing again. We haven't even seen round 2 of the virus yet. Round 2 will be in the fall with Round 3 in the winter.

Surely that is putting employees at risk.

I suspect as soon as there's an increase of employees suddenly testing positive then the local health department will look more closely at our company practices and decision making. The contract tracers will be interested in everyones feedback.

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