Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Termination in Force while hiring abroad

The truth of the latest layoff/termination in Force as oracle wants to call it (meaning that the job position is no longer needed) applies only for USA based jobs. It is well known that the company keeps hiring in India, 2 or more for the same job and for same $$$. An 'elegant' way to excuse the real intention ...outsourcing and keep profits incrementing, no matter if the customer and workers suffer the consequences.
Many workers have >20 years service, many are just months close to early retirement age. The unemployment bill due to covid19 expires in 2 weeks, so not an option either....Many Presidents offer to avoid the lost of US based jobs but none moves a finger nor looks for a real solution.

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If you think that the overseas hiring is “fake news”, just check out all the young, cheaper to employ folks from Romania, Mexico, India, etc. posting on LinkedIn about their new jobs at Oracle. Every [email protected] day.

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Post ID: @6jdu+15PVbRMh

Yes on July 1 there was a major 'cost reduction', A few week prior we were told that any new jobs would be in Mexico.

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Post ID: @6gfm+15PVbRMh

Oracle hates America so much they won't even keep hardware here:

https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/oracle-sharpens-focus-on-india-with-new-cloud-data-centre-in-hyderabad-11593412763135.html

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Post ID: @1pci+15PVbRMh

It’s not that they hate America. It’s that the executive level loves the almighty buck. They go where resources are cheapest. Manufacturing went to Japan in the 60s and 70s. Then picked up and to China in the 80s and 90s. If C-aptasticstan suddenly became a tech hub cheaper than India then Oracle, Microsoft and the lot would pick up and move so fast you could hear the Doppler shift. As long as the execs keep making stupid amounts of money, who cares.

And in my experience, the H1B crowd is a C- at best, both for Oracle employees and the ones at the customer. Most frontline workers are either incompetent and/or too scared of losing their job to take any initiative or responsibility for their work. H1B managers rule by email with constantly changing metrics targets they pull from some “dashboard”. Directors and higher reorg to show something that looks like meaningful work but is really just an exercise in rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The few non-H1B managers and Directors that do exist either get ignored and eventually replaced with someone from the H1B brotherhood. The same applies at the customer as well. Every interaction with them is a painful exercise in repeating oneself and trying to talk them into actually doing the work they were hired to do.

But hey, a Support center is opening in Mexico. Oracle may not be able to innovate with their products. But they can find innovative ways to screw their US and European workers too keep the sacred share price inflated.

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Post ID: @1etv+15PVbRMh

Pres Trump did put a hold on H1-B for this year, which is a baby baby step in the right direction.
Yes at least 2-4 Indians for every USA employee. Big tech wants it that way. Hostile culture and no management interest in customers. It's all outrageous metrics. So management tells higher ups what they want to hear. A bad sign is that Oracle does not release layoff numbers to news sources. Think they might have something to hide? They praise "diversity" but it doesn't mean diversity in work force. It means hire in India and un-hire in Western Europe and US. When is the last time you saw a hispanic Oracle employee? Maybe Larry should move to Bangalore.

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Post ID: @1yie+15PVbRMh

To the guy with comment below, I have a good suggestion for you: first take your medicine, secondly,it is always better to shut up that to say something stupid.

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Post ID: @1arg+15PVbRMh

Here’s an idea. Tell your boss that you’re willing to work for $0.25 on the dollar. That will make you competitive with the guys in Bangalore and you’ll be able to sleep without fear of being replaced by offshore talent. Of course that assumes that your skills are up to snuff relative to the offshore engineers, who are actually pretty good in my experience.

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Post ID: @jpd+15PVbRMh

This is true, while signing to linkedIn I read a post that a guy in Bangalore India started his first day of employment at Oracle as a technical analyst which is my job title and many of my colleagues, I and my colleagues were laid off last June.
Jobs were eliminated to be created elsewhere where it is cheaper to operate.

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