Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

So if assessments are off can we get on with it?!

No need to go through that charade any longer, so can we save that 4-6 weeks and let people get on with their lives?

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Post ID: @OP+15TLV5lZ

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I believe all employees in the US received it via email fall of 2019 from [email protected] RE: Mutual Arbitration Agreement. The email basically indicated Allstate was joining other large companies to more efficiently resolve disputes via arbitration vs. going through the courts that can take years to address and be a costly process. (Again, that’s what was in the email. Try checking your deleted email folder to see if you still have the email).

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Post ID: @1syt+15TLV5lZ

I don't remember having to sign anything. When was this done and how was it sent out?

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Post ID: @1ecj+15TLV5lZ

I am not sure why Allstate would care if people decided to take legal action against the assessment. Allstate made us sign a document at the beginning of the year stating we would make all attempts at mediation before our lawsuit would ever see the light of day in a court room. It was also stated that not signing this document was voluntary agreement to the terms. These layoffs are exactly why we had to sign that document. They do not care if we take them to court over these assessments. All they will have to do is settle in mediation. Of which Allstate has decided would be more cost efficient than to keep the amount of people they are planning on laying off.

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Post ID: @1fpz+15TLV5lZ

Still need help with info on the motion challenge ? Please provide more info or link.

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Post ID: @1hem+15TLV5lZ

Agreed. And honestly, a person in their 50-60’s will have a hard time with that type of test. Good way to get rid of higher paid employees. Yeah, I can see a class action coming soon

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Post ID: @1tyo+15TLV5lZ

What does that motion challenge have to do with how you handle a claim? I see no correlation with how well you move a bar to drop a ball into a whole and dealing with an upset customer and making a liability decision

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Post ID: @1ctm+15TLV5lZ

Google “AON Adept 15” and “motion challenge”, you will get a good description of the tests.

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Post ID: @1doj+15TLV5lZ

What was the assessment like ? Does each area have a different assessment ?

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Post ID: @1yrj+15TLV5lZ

There are not many regional employees getting an assessment, so far only heard of the FSL's, in our region about half of the regional employees were told their jobs are being eliminated, they won't get an assessment, and they can apply for new jobs in the company if there are any that fit what they do now.

When this is all said and done the number of regional employees kept will be a lot less than 40%

Assessment will be used in regional to zone re-staffing with about 40% retention and 60% gone.
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Post ID: @1jmj+15TLV5lZ

What a mess! In the middle of assessments being done and delivered the assessments are now challenged in legal.

What a sh!tshow!!

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Post ID: @sxc+15TLV5lZ

To what people in the northeast? When did they get delivered? What departments?

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Post ID: @urt+15TLV5lZ

The assessments are still on and have been delivered to those in northeast. Idk where your getting info that they are called off. That’s news to people who have already taken it!

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Post ID: @god+15TLV5lZ

You mean to tell me this was not done before communicating to the employee group??
Every high level should be gone...
This is not leadership...

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Post ID: @vto+15TLV5lZ

How would it be fair to judge our yearly reviews against Esurance yearly reviews if they are not the same. Esurance May have easier criteria vs Allstate or vice versa?

If assessments are being done, the letter yesterday said claims would learn its fate be end of month, wouldn’t it take longer since 3rd party has to evaluate the assessment then the other criteria has to be considered ?

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Post ID: @vnv+15TLV5lZ

Assessment will be used in regional to zone re-staffing with about 40% retention and 60% gone.

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Post ID: @zdl+15TLV5lZ

FSLs received their assessments yesterday so I don’t get why people are saying otherwise?

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Post ID: @usz+15TLV5lZ

This is what we were told yesterday.

Several departments challenged the assessment with legal based on concerns of age and race targeting. Also unrelated to the legal challenge some areas challenged that the assessment did not fit their type of work based on the different types of work metric of their areas.

It seems some areas will be using the assessment and others will be regular style of RIF. Hearing areas that will be using the assessment (if legals deems okay to continue) are claims, tech, and areas in which there was a large roll in of Esurance employees.

The assessment was designed to cherry pick the "best of the best" and give Esurance employees a fair shot of remaining in roles over standard Allstate employees. If the assessment is not allowed to be used at all based on what legal decides then this will likely lead to more Esurance being RIF and a higher number of RIF than originally reported. I have already heard prior that the 3700 number that has been floating around is lower than the actual number for this RIF with the number actually being closer to 6000 or 7000 once real estate/site employees and contractors are let go.

Again this is what I have been told by an officer who themselves already know they are gone and they are not regional facing. I assume as more and more officers and site directors learn their fates that they will start singing like canaries. They already have started.

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Post ID: @mcm+15TLV5lZ

What if 2019 is meets but 2020 mid year turns out below meets? Is that a sign you’re out, or do both need to be below meets?

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Post ID: @tty+15TLV5lZ

Some posts are reporting there’s cancelled leadership meetings where assessment plans were to be discussed, and then maybe some sort of legal hold, and now apparently an email from Claims leadership implying no assessment, with those affected learning their fate in 2-3 weeks. Original plans for the assessment were for next week so I guess we’ll know then, although it was never clear who was getting assessments in the first place.

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Post ID: @fzd+15TLV5lZ

I heard we won't know till next Tuesday if we are getting them.

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Post ID: @syv+15TLV5lZ

What was the severance terms for those that have been given notice ?

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