See where both British Airways and Qantas are retiring their fleet of 747s immediately. That should put a dent in the Aero R/O side, especially the units being moved out of Anniston.
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Resources I could find point to the Common Core Avionics, including remote data concentrators as being supplied by GE Avionics. Only the displays are Rockwell Collins.
Looks like H lost the refresh of its own crown jewel system. Explains a lot of that front. B making noise about standing up its own avionics vertical doesn’t speak well to GE or H performances lately.
If you make your $ on Repair & Overhaul, not being on the platform has to be a big deal.
(777 wasn’t “sunset“. It got a mid-life refresh and H lost the incumbent seat at the table. It sunset for H, but that probably says more about H than it does B...)
http://www.modern-avionics.com/news/2017/777X-advancing-avionics/
@3vpa: Yes the older 777's have the Honeywell avionics displays shown on the Honeywell website you listed and will likely support them in the aftermarket as long as the older existing aircraft are flying. They are not going to build any more of these existing older 777 aircraft platforms.
Now, see the link above about the new 777x aircraft platform that is replacing the old 777's and 747's for the commercial aircraft market that Boeing is going to be building. It's Rockwell Collins avionics.
https://aerospace.honeywell.com/en/learn/supported-platforms/airlines-and-cargo/boeing/boeing-777
The 777X is Rockwell Collins avionics displays.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_777_orders_and_deliveries
@3yaa: I get what you're saying. Look at web link for a wiki on existing 777 orders & deliveries, specifically the second table. It's updated to June 2020 and shows no new orders for 2019-2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777X There is an new 777 version in the works shown on this wiki that is supposed to compete with the A350. I don't know if it has H avionics or if it will go into production.
Sorry, didn’t see that news. If B sunsets 777, H avionics is F’ed. That’s the last high volume platform you have serious avionics content on. Without engineering change requests on the platform, the talent will boil off and leave no one behind that knows how to design a new one from scratch. Lots of caretakers will be left, but the folks that made something from nothing are history. That’ll crater future proposals credibility. Buh bye.
What’s B plan for 777 replacement? Can’t cede the market to A350 and ‘87 isn’t gonna scale is it? ‘47 gone leaves a big hole in the portfolio. (B isn’t gonna get investors to pony up for a whole new plane for a while after the MAX experience. I think the 777 sunset is still BS regardless of The News)
https://www.boeing.com/commercial/freighters/
Yes folks, as far as commercial passenger planes go the B747 & B777 are sunset programs for Boeing new production. However, they are still alive and well for at least 20-30 more years as freighters. So no, the platforms are not done.
Also, just because British Airways and Qantas stops flying them doesn't mean another airline won't pick them up and use them until it's time for their D Check which would likely be the end of life for that aircraft.
SHW great and mostly correct post. That said you are incorrect as I was a MPS APU planner in the 70s and 80s and know that product line well. As I recall the 747s had 2 of the 660s APUs. I mainly dealt with the 85 series 2 and 4 bearing units.
Read the news, genius. Operators are retiring 777s all over the place, delta alone is dumping all 18 of theirs this year alone. Some are replacing them with A350 and some aren't replacing them at all.
On what basis could you claim 777 done? H content is the brains of 777. To remove H, it would k–l the 777 product. Only way that happens is the permanent death of intercontinental air travel.
Boeing isn’t going to invest in replacing 777 or its avionics. If anything, B might buy a slice of H aero to keep certain platforms alive like 777. If H got bad enough, we could see WS and/or .gov ‘encourage’ such a move given the economic and military impacts of a H collapse. A forced change of leadership with outside adult supervision could work too.
Not a good time to be in the antique aerospace parts business. Hon products are old tech. No future here.
Only the early 747s had the 660 APU. Boeing decided that they had enjoyed all that they could stand of AiResearch's arrogance (rightly so), so went with the Pratt APU for the -400, and nearly everything flying these days is of that configuration.
I wouldn't expect anyone on this board or anyone in what's called management of Honeywell these days to know any of this, but thought I'd throw it in anyway.
Don't forget all the B777s being retired across the globe, tht platform is done