Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Grundlach on 100k + employees

Makes ya think I have seen the same at Chevron in the last 15 years I have watched layers being added and these PMs, and extra supervisors running around pushing paper between each other. running around doing very little actual work.

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Billionaire bond investor Jeffrey Gundlach, the CEO of $135 billion DoubleLine Capital, sees the potential for a "wave of more higher-end unemployment' hitting white-collar workers making more than $100,000 per year as employers increasingly question the value these employees bring.

In 11 weeks, more than 42 million Americans filed for unemployment insurance as the COVID-19 pandemic wrecked the economy. The bulk of these job losses hit lower-income households the hardest.

"A lot of times it's not the earthquake, it's the fire," Gundlach said on a webcast for the DoubleLine Total Return Bond Fund (DBLTX), later adding that he could "easily see layoffs in various industries" affecting higher earners.

Gundlach, who runs the Los Angeles-based bond investment firm, explained that one of the outcomes of remote work is it reveals who produces and who doesn't.

"What people may have learned for white-collar services jobs, in particular, during the work-from-home lockdown situation, at least in my perspective — I've talked to a lot of my peers on this — I kind of learned who was really doing the work and who was not really doing as much work as it looked like on paper that they might have been doing," Gundlach said.

He's witnessed this at DoubleLine, where people running "certain groups" haven't been as responsive, while the more junior members on their team have stepped up.

"I wonder where they've gone. It seems like the people who work for them are constantly in contact with me doing all this work and some of the supervisory, middle management people I'm starting to wonder if I really need them. And this is just a one sample thing," he added.

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“can provide guidance or step in to make connections between departments or facilitate cooperation”: I am a SME in my “space” and would only comment that this is a key problem with our current organization: The same managers meet and discuss but seldom share the meat of these discussions or what they have learned with the worker bees. That is how they guard their turf.

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Post ID: @pup+16fVmxqy

Many supervisors attend meeting after meeting, week after week exchanging thoughts and being briefed on this or that. They don't work in the sense of producing any work product; they listen, they communicate and keep track of what's going on. The can provide guidance or step in to make connections between departments or facilitate cooperation, which does add some value. However, organizations are learning that "managerial" staffing can be thinned out or only sparsely staffed when you have professional, competent, self-motivated people who are tasked with certain responsibilities and provide periodic reports to a small leadership team. Software also is much better at tracking progress on projects than it used to be. Individuals can lead a team effort or significant project via specific assignment and they don't need to possess the title of team lead or project mgr. in many instances. In a way its more fluid and competitive structure; you don't lead by title or position; you lead by action and assignment. This way you are constantly challenged to succeed because you are only as good as your last performance within your assigned responsibilities. You will have far fewer persons resting on their title and position as a leader. When money is tight accountability gets pushed down within the ranks so that some of the high paying jobs can be cut. Just a simple perspective.

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That’s why I remain on the technical career ladder. I improve my real skills constantly, whereas middle managers stay on a road of no growth. Of 100 supervisors, maybe only 5 have the fundamental traits to move into upper management. The rest are in a dead end career path of boredom, ineffectiveness and ultimate uselessness.

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Post ID: @amd+16fVmxqy

Easy prediction. There as never been a major corporate reorg during which more middle management was added. Folks in middle management for more than a decade lose their technical edge and tend to have a hard time finding another position at the same competition levels. Well know fact.

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Post ID: @lca+16fVmxqy

Who cares.

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