Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

I have worked for 3 companies in my career for 10+ years and only Oracle has the audacity to not give at least a cost of living pay increase for it's hard working employees who have made the billions for LE. You get what you pay for LE.

I for one, is so skeptical of this new vision under LE and CM, won’t be recommending Oracle cloud services in whichever company I work for next.

I am also glad I am not one of the OIT that didn’t get RIF, and is expected to support the internal business IT requirements under this virtualize everything vision

What a load. Oracle is dead. The leadership incompetent. To note otherwise is naive

Well, I certainly agree with "Sun Hardware - DUH!"

I mean, sure - single-source your hardware. What's the worst thing that could happen?

Let's see - memory FAB fire, 8 month lead time for GPUs, inability to get network switches...

“DaNOOB” ...classic!!! Or how about “DaBag”?? I will never forget the 1st time I saw this guy’s mug in a sales “training” video at oracle, maybe 3 years ago (?), I was like “where the eff did they find THIS guy?!?!?”.

Unbelievable

OP bullets look exactly like slide #1 of any of Steve DaNOOB’s (SVP, incredibly, of Oracle’s cloud “strategy” - this fact alone speaks volumes) internal sales training presentations. This is the sort of mandatory tripe jammed down the throats of the sales org at the start of every fiscal year. Reps and sales engineers are even asked to memorize presos like this, record themselves barfing it all back up, and submitting the videos as proof of “compliance”. No wonder the company is in the c-apper.

Did LE ever go to Austin campus to kayak? He said that was a big reason for picking that site for the cute perky little Class-ofs. He got a double kayak to give rides to the most perky or so people are saying.

he Austin campus, which will no doubt be sold off soon

Campuses in general are going to become white elephants, pretty much unsalable. I wouldn't be surprised to see some bulldozed and replaced with housing, as is already happening with old school shopping malls.

Love the comment about leveraging HCM and Taleo for these RIFS.

Question: would that be considered an example of us “eating our own dog food”?

“Hey, Ms/Mr HRExec! Hell yes, these cloud apps work great! Used them ourselves for round after round of downsizing. You can trust us on this! In fact, we’ll even get our CIO, LE, or SK to corroborate. They'll give you a testimonial as to how you can’t go wrong with Oracle Cloud Apps!

The Austin Campus is fantastic!

Did you mean FUNtastic Mr/Ms class-of? After all, fusball and ping pong tables make for real “Yah Hoo” at break time, don’t they?

I’m curious - now that the so-called “hub-model” for sales support is finally dead, how many hubsters actually remain in Austin. Weren’t there 50 or more? How many non-hubsters are still there? When you walk or yell down the hall is there an echo?

Sure - the campus/buildings is/are beautiful, which luckily makes them more attractive to potential buyers.

BWAHAHAHAHA! OP is obviously being sarcastic. Well played.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, upper management is actually stupid enough to believe these myths and fantasies.

"2nd gen OCI cloud. MS, AWS and Goog can only dream about cloud tech this good"

Awesome.

OCI is garbage compared to AWS. The console doesn't even have SSO, like some lousy internally-developed app from the 90s. I've seen undergrad projects with a better UI.

re: Fusion and ADB.. Does fusion even deploy on OCI yet do you know? It'll be one throat to choke when all that can be purchased off the oci console instead.

re: scoffs about OCI, we'll see the gartner magic quadrant and marketing start escalating soon I expect, have you tried GCP or paid for internet traffic on AWS? Lots of appealing reasons for a CIO looking for cost savings to send the order.

The Austin Campus is fantastic!

Bingo - the tip-off being the ridiculous statement about the Austin campus, which will no doubt be sold off soon.

I think the OP is being sarcastic. No one thinks Oracle is doing well.

Stopped reading at the first bullet:

Downsizing actions, although painful, have pruned all deadwood and left a healthy core of top performers

Surprise, surprise! No dead wood getting laid off.... the deadwood are the people in charge of the layoffs. They keep their incompetent friends and lay off anyone who would threaten their power. If you don't understand that, you don't understand Oracle.

Let me guess - you're in HR and are trying to boost morale? LMAO!

Interesting positive comment. First, layoffs probably have not gone far enough or deep enough and oracle really won't make the hard choice of FULLY committing to its declared vision and cutting loose products that don't fit that vision. Also why is it that its always dev and support and sales and the actual customer facing people who bring in money that we hear about getting cut but we have massive internal orgs that seem untouched. Also, it is not deadwood that is cut and everyone knows that. Sure, some of it is but there is plenty more. I've not seen one single reference that indicates oracle is the envy of the industry in and measure. Elaborate. We don't really have leadership or vision that rallies the troops and the industry behind them. LE and SK are largely invisible, detached, inaccessible, and irrelevant to anyone except trump and investors. Yes there are motivated people but they keep getting dumped on. 2nd gen cloud - I'm sure that our competitors are doing more than dreaming, they are working on the next big thing.

“deadwood” = same people who were getting pay reductions and OT limits

This is hilarious. I am a manager in oracle and cuts are to do with under performing sales for specific areas, or the head count being too high in comparison for the generated revenue for that product.
At some times, specific RIFs will happen to remove lower performers - but the individuals may still contribute.

However in this case the cuts relate to products not meeting the demands of the market or sales unable to sell the products. CX cut backs are consolidation and it is resulting in some fantastic (and high performers) be let go.
The delusional stuff you post is obviously because you are either naive or too stupid to realize you are nothing more than a number in a large corporate organisation. Loyalty is not rewarded as there is always some-one out there to replace you.

Oracle is no different from any other large corporation in this respect.

OCI is better than AWS?? LOL. Have you ever used AWS? It is 100x more features than OCI.

If you believe this was such a great move why post anonymously?

This post is delusional because a person on my team was let go recently. This person was always raved about and told how great their work was, that person is now gone. How do you figure they were “deadwood?”

Do you prefer grape or Lime Kool Aid?

Re: super cluster - POS and no great loss

Larry when did they let you out of the crying-chamber or has your consciousness finally been uploaded to the cloud?

Re: “performance related”
fusion HCM and taleo were leveraged heavily

End of life supercluster because it was being used instead of the cloud. Layoffs don't get rid of the deadwood, they keep dead wood around to be sacrificed next time around. You also need to understand that people understand layoffs as a signal of trouble. So if people didn't think Oracle was in trouble before they do now. As an employee and being told how great things are going and then seeing layoffs, you're left wondering who's lying to you. You also now get to watch other Employees who survived wondering what is going on.... they didn't see the last layoff, they thought everything was going well... so now they "KNOW" there are just going to be more layoffs because everyone knows layoffs signal a company is in trouble. So now that they know the company is in trouble, they won't fall for the lies because everyone was telling them how great things were just before the last layoff. Guess what .... some will leave, some will stay.... you guess which ones will be the first to get hired away? This isn't even to mention that the employees who work day to day with these people know who the deadwood is, and they know who isn't deadwood. Layoffs may get low ranked by managers but the lowest-ranked by one manager may still be better than those of other managers. And layoffs are by definition not performance-related, so if they wanted to get rid of the deadwood, they need to actually do the performance reviews and they need to allow managers and teams to replace the deadwood.

delusional and pathetic just like trump!

agreed this was a good move by ORCL managers the ones I spoke with fired the bottom 10% that's a GOOD THING

Of course you "disagree" with the negative comments. Perhaps you are part of an internal Oracle team that posts these kinds responses, or perhaps you just have delusions of grandeur since you obviously think highly of yourself from your comment: "pruned all deadwood and left a healthy core of top performers."

This Aug 2020 RIF has affected good people. Why don't you just let people vent and get it off their chests. If you are one of those who didn't lose their employment, how about showing some dignity? Feel fortunate and just keep your comments to yourself.

"catapult us back to market leadership."

LMAO! Oracle (OCI) isn't even in the top 5, and has never been a market leader in Cloud.

With major billion dollar revenue companies disappearing left and right, I can't really fault a lot of belt tightening right now. This period will define them. No one in multiple generations has faced adversity like this, and certainly enterprise software has never seen anything like it. Larry Ellison has positioned the company for survival and even profit during the Great Depression part II, and that's pretty amazing in and of itself. Let's see how his successors do.

are you dreaming. they always say we position ourselves for success and it's always a failure. you are just kissing a****.

Are you really sure with this statement:
"Org changes and top performing management, including some new leaders who represent the best of the best, have resulted in the industry’s most efficient development, support, marketing, and sales teams. With LE and SK pulling the strings we are the envy of the industry with employees top to bottom who are excited, motivated and executing against the strategic vision. "

or do you mean folks that kiss a*** are the ones that got retained even if no knowledge whatsoever. they just pretend to be!

Position means nothing unless you execute. Let’s touch base at the end of 2020 to see how sales went ;)