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stubborn embattled Telco not negotiating

Broken in square HBOMAX projections and positive spin that AT&T T put on the launch of HBO Max does not reflect the reality as demage vontrol guru.. John T. Stankey, stated that, “HBO Max IS STRONG, on track to hit its targets and that the product was “flawless.” yet produced ZERO benefits to an embattled Telco.
The company knew this and lowballed expectations, but the results also reek of missed opportunities.

While the report touts that HBO Max gained 4.1 million subscribers in one month, it barely slowed the bleed experienced by the traditional HBO. Combined, the traditional HBO and HBO Max finished the quarter with 36.3 million U.S. subscribers, up only 1.7 million (4.9%) from the 34.6 million at the end of 2019. The 4.1 million new subscribers all but vanished by the decline in cable and satellite subscribers. Worse, operating revenue fell for the combined HBO by 3.2% for the six-month ending. While AT&T states that HBO Max is on track to have about 50 million U.S. subscribers by 2025, many of those will likely be traditional HBO subscribers who jump to HBO Max, so the net adds may be only 14 million subscribers or so from today’s 36.3 million.

Disney Plus gained 10 million subscribers in one day and 54.5 million subscribers in the first six months. That’s what success actually looks like.

HBO is a great brand built upon great premium content, but the launch stumbled badly due to an array of marketing missteps that violated core marketing principles.

The HBO Max launch had grossly inadequate distribution. I started my marketing career at General Mills GIS -0.6% where I often heard, “We don’t market to empty shelves.” That means you don’t spend a dollar on marketing until your product has ample distribution so that your customers can buy it. HBO Max is not available via Roku or Amazon AMZN +0.5% Fire which combined represent roughly 70% of U.S. streaming households, leaving HBO Max to scramble for the remaining 30%. As a guesstimate, had AT&T made the deal with these services, the 4.1 million HBO Max subscribers might have been as many as 13.7 million. The difference (9.6 million) may have generated an added $1.73 billion per year of which HBO would have taken a substantial cut from Roku and Amazon. Success and failure is not only measured by gains, but also by opportunity lost.

There are reasons why AT&T has not done the deal with Roku and Amazon Fire, mostly related to a dispute over money, pathways, and ownership of customer data. AT&T feels that other streaming services have gotten better deals. While they are probably right, being justified is sometimes deadly if it results in stalled negotiations in an environment where more accessible streaming services are expanding rapidly.

Unfortunately, AT&T can be stubborn when it comes to contract negotiations. Ask any Dodger fan, most of whom could not see the Dodgers play on local television because of a bitter, six-year plus contract battle between AT&T’s DirecTV unit and Spectrum, the local sports network. It took the U.S. Justice Department to resolve the dispute. HBO Max does not have that much time to waste because consumers may have little money left for a fourth or fifth streaming service.

HBO Max is way over-priced relative to streaming competition. RIP AT&T

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HBO is a shell of it's former self. All the talent has moved on and what's left are AT&T toadies.

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Post ID: @2prx+16xHX3H4

Anyone with talent has already left AT&T, which is a company circling the drain.

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Post ID: @1neh+16xHX3H4

HBO Max is overpriced, but as long as it was another flavor of HBO, they could not price it lower than regular HBO, or regular HBO customers would drop the service from their cable package.
The same problem existed when they should not have priced DirecTV streaming less than regular DirectTV.

The only way they could have priced it less, is give subset of HBO with some of its shows, and then Time Warner content.

In time HBO Max is the right strategy as one service, but AT&T must swallow hard and price it at 7-8 dollars to get volume. There is no way HBO Max has as much content as Netflix as we speak, and therefore should be price lower.

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Post ID: @goe+16xHX3H4

Sadly, alot of AT&Ts top talent that was let go is now running at TMO. And they've cloned a lot of successful programs that T decimated and/or "outsourced" in the name of chasing the latest spreadsheet savings synergies which ignored hidden costs and left key contexts that didn't support the "vision/mission"in the delete bin . TMO focused on core programs and developed their own programs "In House". Their share price performance is speaking louder than words. There are holes everywhere now.

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Post ID: @tbj+16xHX3H4

Did he make a muscle with his arm as the new world order stooge said how strong hbo max was

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Post ID: @crt+16xHX3H4

JANUARY 2014 Tweet from John Legere

JOHN LEGERE WAS A 20 Veteran of New England Telephone and AT&T.

2012 - 2020 His Business Accomplishment

Then, just moments ago, Legere tweeted yet again at the Twitter-less Stephenson. He even uses the hashtag “#shipsinking” after discrediting AT&T’s claim that T-Mobile has not made a dent in their business. I don’t think this one is over just yet, so make sure you follow John Legere on Twitter.

#Randall – you gave us cash & spectrum AND we took your customers with #Uncarrier moves, do you really think you can buy them back?

— John Legere (@JohnLegere) January 3, 2014

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I imagine this is the conversation that went on at
@ATT
a few months ago…

Randall Stephenson: “Let’s call it 5G”

AT&T staffer: “But it’s not 5G, sir, it’s LTE”

Randall: “Just add a letter to the end of it, no one will know the difference!”

Opensignal: AT&T’s 5G E falls short of T-Mobile and Verizon 4G speeds
venturebeat.com

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Post ID: @vih+16xHX3H4

The reality is that HBO Max needs Amazon and Ruku, not the other way around.

Stephens and Stank can claimed they have leverage on negotiations, sounds nice when spoken out loud, but it is base on nothing bust wishful thinking. Ultimately, they have to crave in to get a deal done with Amazon/Ruku.

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Post ID: @hvy+16xHX3H4

Last week Stephens told analysts that they expect Amazon and Roku to bend to the pressure of holiday sales to cut HBO Max a better deal.

That's all you need to know about the business acumen of our "Leadership". Amazon will gladly sell their stuff at a loss indefinitely to squeeze competitors & vendors. Roku is probably in less of a position to do so, but with them together holding something like 75% of the market for streaming platforms, neither has a lot of need to budge. Apple TV is a $150 device and Chromecast is almost a totally different category because of the way it functions. Bottom line is that Amazon/Roku hold the cards here and it's astonishing that AT&T "Leadership" apparently doesn't understand this.

I honestly wonder if these guys have a solid grasp on the principles of economics. (Actually, I'm pretty sure Stanky has a couple Nobel Prizes in Economics collecting dust in his basemement, in addition to all his other greatness). These guys are burocrats, they are clowns next to Bezos and other entreprenuers. These guys probably make jokes about T executives the moment they leave the room.

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