Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Larry had a hand in destroying Sun’s HW biz long before he bought them

I want to clear something up. LE absolutely did NOT buy Sun because of its HW biz. He knew that traditional biz was in decline and not salvageable. In fact, HE was in part responsible for the elimination of one of sun’s highest margin markets. For example, he launched a major shot across Sun’s bow around ‘02 or ‘03. At the time McSquealy, et. al., were happily selling E10Ks to telcos, ISPs, hosting companies, etc, to run heavyweight billing software. Suddenly, companies started running that SW, in this case Keenan, on RAC clusters of mid-weight iron, like V880s. It ran great, and that E10K high-margin market vaporized overnight! All that high-margin revenue was suddenly re-directed to Oracle RAC licenses! Wow!! McSqueely and gang practically had kittens!!

Roll forward a few years to when IBM almost bought Sun. Oracle was heavily leveraged on... wait for it... JAVA. Fusion Apps were written in Java, the middleware stack was all Java, and Larry was suddenly faced with the possibility of IBM gaining control of the technology that he was so heavily leveraged on. Talk about a near-cardiac event! So when IBM balked after the Sun BOD tried to milk a few more cents/share out of them Larry swooped in and in seemingly just a matter of days, he was suddenly the proud owner of Java! And for the measly sum of $8B (about what he paid for a small-ish software company, BEA/weblogic, just a few years before).

So for the Sun hangers-on who somehow still think LE gave a cr^^ about their servers I have news for you - he didn’t!! Sure, it was a throw in that he has tried to milk since, but Java was the only thing he really cared about. Deal with it!

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left all their employees on the freeway on-ramp

That has to be one of stupidest things I've seen posted here.

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Post ID: @3lxb+16y1WhF9

Buying Sun would have been a much better deal if we'd done an intellectual property purchase and left all their employees on the freeway on-ramp with cardboard signs.

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Post ID: @3nwp+16y1WhF9

He is helping Pres to destroy TikTok.

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Post ID: @1uhw+16y1WhF9
If he can get $8B out of Google then it's essentially free!

Contrary to popular belief, the business unit is profitable and contributes a non trivial amount of cash to the bottom line

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Post ID: @1eee+16y1WhF9

It was obvious that LE didn’t care about Sun. The Engineering talent exodus was massive, and they didn’t care. Those who remained were treated like red headed step children. Oracle was an acquisition machine, with two CEOs and a leader who cared more about buying yachts and Hawaiian islands. Clearly the sh|ttiest time in my career and so glad it’s in the past.

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Post ID: @1kif+16y1WhF9

You are not wrong. Java was the prize and he k–led several viable products that could be in use today like virtual desktop and suncloud

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Post ID: @1yfz+16y1WhF9

Hahaha! Keep dreaming, Larry.

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Post ID: @1ugr+16y1WhF9

If he can get $8B out of Google then it's essentially free!

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Post ID: @1jqe+16y1WhF9

That and it's clear the Oracle leadership saw major dollar signs when they thought they could sue Google for the use of Java in Android.

What did it get them? Bupkis.

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