I am worried because my manager has told me nothing. The fear is finally getting on my nerves. I think MultiSite/ACI are still hot and nothing will happen? Do you people know what might the impact be like?
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VPCs and VRFs, man cisco is starting to lose it compared to rest of the world, service providers still think BGP and VRFS but everyone else is going EVPN , just use mpls underlay. Cisco was slow on wan, seeing alot of converged edge devices coming out, palo etc. Arrista is eating lan lunch, better get it together or it will be like seeing a sad nortel box in a DC.
Amazon and Cisco are not competitors because Cisco missed out on every trend in technology. Even Oracle was able to put together Cloud Solutions. A technology company is able to anticipate trends and develop those solutions.
Cisco doesn't compete with Workday because we can't create enterprise cloud services. Zoom beat WebEx due to Cisco's inability to implement new product features internally.
Neither - im tired of people posting on here...complaining and running their mouths about Cisco tech that they CLEARLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. This is c-ap..thats c-ap...trash this...trash that. OK smart guy...what's better? UHHHHH Amazon....uhhhh. You FREAKING mo–nS...AMAZON and Cisco aren't competitors. Facebook...ISN'T a competitor...IT'S A CUSTOMER! While your at it...why doesn't some id–t get on here and post about how Costco and McDonalds is just "EATING CISCOs LUNCH"! HAW HAW HAW
If half of these fools really are Blue badges...NO WONDER we have to LR every year. We have to get rid of all the mo–ns. All the puffed up egos that think they are the next Bezos...when in fact, they're a bunch of clowns.
Sounds like somebody protecting their turf. Are you a Cat or NX guy :)
Todd must be shocked by the awful GUIs (DNAC/APIC), on-prem hardware to run them, and 1000s of pages of docs. Time to drain the swamp and start over with a SAS product that is at least half intuitive.
yes - DNA and APIC will one day work together, but that's not the argument. the argument was that the cat9300 and nx9300 is the same box...so who cares?!!? Cisco just wasting money producing the same thing and reselling it. Again...they AREN'T EVEN CLOSE. thats like saying an ASR 1k and a Palo Alto are effectively the same thing because they can both run ip and can talk bgp. no....no its not...
Bro it’s obvious they are converging. Why cares about VPC or VSL these days? You do layer 3 ECMP underlay and VXLAN overlay for Campus and DC. Then you use the same controller.
oh im sorry...so they have the same throughput numbers? nope...
Oh so now VPC is the same thing as VSL? no it is most certainly NOT the same thing....
ok do they support the same scale numbers? not even close?!? WHAAAAT!?!
WAIT WAIT...does nexus do wifi now? ohhh...no...it doesn't....
WELL im sure DNA and ACI are the same thing...right? no genius...it isn't...again not even close.
no your right. another "Expert" throwing out opinions about something they know NOTHING ABOUT. in a sense your right at home here. so many tech tycoons in the making here...talking about how the company is on the verge of collapse. Funny...my paycheck seems to keep cashing...
NEWS FLASH guy, Nexus 9300 and Catalyst 9300 aren't remarkably different in what they accomplish. Other than fund two different BUs to deliver chipsets+hardware+software. They switch+route packets between interfaces, perform VXLAN, etc. Sure some concept differences like VPC vs VSL - does that really matter?
catalyst? are you serious? i think there are some people posting on here that have absolutely no idea or understanding what Nexus is, what it does, and what ACI is and what it does. NEWS FLASH GUYS
those products you listed....THEY DONT DO THE SAME THINGS. They are meant to solve DIFFERENT USE CASES. reread your marketing slide decks, as its clear you aren't reading anything more technical than that.
If the fear is truly getting on your nerves, you have not been looking at Cisco with open eyes. I am not sure where you are located, but in RTP that is the IT mantra for places like Cisco, Lenovo, IBM. No innovation, just acquire and layoff.
Maybe this will be a wakeup call to start looking for your next job. If you are in your 50s, good luck. In probably 99% of the cases, you will be looking at contract work or similar to a friend, take a job teaching. May not seem glamorous, but in a lot of states, they will allow lateral moves and take years of experience into it. He moved into being a teacher, making $65k/yr, 10 years he will get full retirement of 70% of his average salary the last 5 years. So, just under $50k per year in retirement. He also gets 3 months off a year and much happier.
OK, I am the original poster. I think the vibe is very negative for the product and I do not mind hearing that. But kind of a cut might happen is my question?
Will standalone 9K fare better than ACI?
The multi-domain (multi-site) is a stupid issue created by Cisco itself. it is ridiculous that those network devices requires more than three types of network controllers to manage.
remember the Mainstreet from NewBridge was capable of managing all kinds of network devices from different vendors. It was the product of 2000. unbelievable all the products from Cisco can not be managed by a single network management software.
What a mess of the Engineering management
completely redundant. just have catalyst line opf products and junk nxos. They just keep making platform after platform, no one know what features are in which products.
time to clean up nxos and move on. not sure if cisco leadership listens now. I heard 40% cut in switching and move to software services
seems like a fair amt of redundancy in switching and routing
Is aci and multisite making money? What would the layoff scene look like?
- 99% of installs aren't NXOS
- each one of those switches and GUIs provide a different function...so, not sure your point?
Junk product leftover from MPLS. 99% of Nexus installs are NXOS mode. Have to be asking do we need 50 different models of 48 port switches to do the same thing (Nexus, Meraki, Catalyst)? And four different GUIs to setup VXLAN (ACI, MSO, SDA, DCNM)?