Does time-in-grade matter? If you are Gr6 and haven't had any grade level changes in more than the last five years, should you worry that might put you on the chopping block for layoffs?
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Years ago we saw the trend of mismanagement cutting IC roles when the problem really lies with management. If anyone couldn’t read the tea leaves that Intel was in trouble when we missed 10nm, then people can continue to put their heads in the sand and pretend it’s going to get better in the future. Yet another big warning was sounded in June when 7nm was late. Left Intel on my own when I refused to work for an unethical ceo (BK) and leaving was the best decision I ever made. Survived 5 layoffs in my time but it was obvious leadership was uninterested in doing anything but watching their stock accounts. Many people on here complain every time there’s a layoff, and at this point with the fall of the greatest semiconductor company, there will be no recovery- back to the glory days. My advice is to head for the exits while you can, or continue to work in a poisoned work atmosphere under the fear you will be next. There are a lot of talented people at Intel that will find a better role at a much better run company if they put themselves back out in the job search. Loyalty to this company will get you nothing. Leave while you can. Don’t think you aren’t next, because chances are your time is short. Freedom is taking your career into your own hands and to a company that values your contributions. Been at my new job 4 years. It’s the longest I worked anywhere without a layoff. Move! Even if it means taking a pay cut.
I always wondered why they even got focal when it was designed for actual employees, but now it's not focal, it's even more of a joke
Yep, Time is grade is HR's favorite way to justify their existence. Getting rid of time in grade employees is how HR people get a good focal.
Personally sat on the inside of 2 rounds of layoffs and can assure you that time-in-grade is absolutely a factor. As previous posters mentioned there are far better (and happier) companies to work for. Get OUT and Get OUT NOW! Very best wishes, was in your position and jumped and have never been happier; you will too.
does not matter as long as your boss likes you. the first person to say if someone is required or not is the line manager - keep kissing
Time in grade matters a lot when it comes to staff reductions. Someone who has been in the same grade for 4-5 years or longer is going to be a candidate for staff reductions regardless of how important you feel you are to your team. Whether it is true or not, a long time in same grade is data HR can use to show you have stagnated and are not advancing in your career. That alone will not get you, but factored in with anything else they can come up with it will hurt you. Time in grade was a factor used in the 2016 when they decided who should be asked to "voluntary" leave (or risk being laid off later). It is especially useful to get older employees to leave because they are generally the group who has been in the same grade longest.
Breaking barrier from 6 to 7 is hard. When I did it, I had to leverage a competing offer from an external company to get it. Even then, when promoted with a 10% bump in base, I still was underpaid considering what I was doing. Intel knows this and have perfected the art of giving every excuse under the sun to not promote someone. The main thing that matters is that you keep learning new skills that are applicable to outside industry.
True to every company, you get the biggest jumps in pay when jumping every couple of years. It s—s when you really like an area and there isn't many other options, like PDX. But even in PDX, there are more options coming up everyday and the Hillsboro sites are realizing this, giving existing employees out of cycle raises and RSUs. The drain of the better designers and architects is actually putting a hurt on Hillsboro.
Find a new job. Intel s—s and pays way less than elsewhere and is toxic AF. Having worked at intel will open some doors so use that and move on, it’s a horrible place to work and I wish I would have quit much earlier than I did. Good luck and RUN!
In 2016, it was “time on earth”. If you were over 40, you were at risk. You never know which axe they’ll use. They could fall back to stock grant criteria, time in grade, “performance”, or project-based (“wrong chair when music stops”).
Maybe the risk element is “time at Intel”?
How do know if you have personal folder with HR?
You should have this discussion with your GL during insights and insist that you want a promotion and what can be done to make it happen. They might overwhelm with projects but if you do well, they will have no option but to get the grade bump. Irrespective of what people are saying here: the best way to get a quick promotion is to demonstrate an urge to take ownership of projects which no one in interested in. Also , as I said before , keep communication with your boss open about promotion. Good Luck !!
it doesn't matter... but it's the excuse they'll give you for not getting a promo when it is really because you are outside the tribe
@ouk what Jan announcement?
It doesn't matter
Start looking if you are 40 yrs or older. They leave the young one alone unless performance issue. Anything on your personal folder with HR makes a HUGE difference. They will not hesitate to fire you if you have anything in your personal folder.
Why not leave Intel and end this madness? You be way more happier. intel is a horrible place to work and AMD is kicking Intel's behind. Apple is going solo. Its like working for GM. Leave before the Jan announcement.