Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

On the case...

The problem for Google on the copyrightability front is that "compilations" of non-copyrightable items can be copyrightable even if the underlying items themselves are not, if the "selection, coordination, or arrangement" of those items involves sufficient creativity to be considered an "original work of authorship".
For example, individual recipes are generally not copyrightable, but if you compile a set of recipes and publish them in a cookbook, the cookbook itself becomes copyrightable.
As applied to Java, individual method signatures like min and max might not be copyrightable, but someone had to go in and organize those individual methods into classes, and organize those classes into packages. That act of organization likely implies that the Java API (taken as a whole) constitutes a copyrightable work, even if the individual method signatures are not.
What's worse for Google is that code has always been considered copyrightable so arguing that APIs are non-copyrightable is essentially carving out an exception for a specific type of code.
As is common when HN discusses legal matters I see a lot of people blaming the judges for not understanding tech, but the problem here isn't really the judges so much as the law itself. We should not be surprised if Oracle ends up winning here, at least on the question of copyrightability. Google may have an out related to fair use, but that seems like a long shot as well.

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Please take a writing class because you s— at it.

Yahoo Finance wrote this "Oracle vs. Google, to be heard March 24, it will tell the Supreme Court that instructions on using software, called application program interfaces (APIs), can be as protected by copyright as software itself. In effect it’s saying open-source licenses can be rendered moot by corporate fiat."

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Post ID: @5gwq+17lCHWov

Covid top ramen is getting old, need to drop a load

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Post ID: @cdz+17lCHWov

Copyright in US is constitutionally established to encourage progress NOT guarantee royalties. If copyright for API discourages progress, then oopsie no $15b windfall for buying Sun for less $.

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Post ID: @qji+17lCHWov

There are always unintended consequences. No matter how the decision goes.

All this legal BS with Java, and Oracle’s stewardship of it, have had one big consequence. It’s driving the move away from Oracle Java. If you need Java, Amazon Corretto is solid, no Oracle to deal with. As a bonus, “Duke” is the favicon.

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Post ID: @bsx+17lCHWov

Meh
Ten years ago, when Oracle and Java mattered, this was important. Now that neither is relevant anymore nobody cares.

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