Thread regarding DXC Technology layoffs

Old middle management

The old middle management are still working to the Lawrie era.

You hear the new DXC from Mike S about the new way of working, new normal were not working from offices, but the the lower management keep on referring to when or if people can work from offices. How many times does Mike S has to tell them or is he not clear enough.

The lower management block stuff and delay authorization whilst Mike S says blocks should be taken out.

It seems like Mike S has a new DXC vision, and the lower management are still working for/in the Mike Lawrie era rules.

MIke S communications not bieng accepted by lower old DXC management. The lower management need to be sorted out.

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Post ID: @OP+1854wGG9

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Come to Australia - bunch of Lawrie people from the MD down.

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Post ID: @sqcj+1854wGG9

Poor old Mikey can't see the wood for the trees - He may have cleaned out most of the top (a few notable Lawrie people remain along with their toxic approach to management) but the next level down need to go too. All about selling and never about the customers. Latest NPS in our region was clear - legacy company, all about the sale with no ability (or time) to have strategic conversations.

A client asked me about the long term strategy - was hard not to laugh when it's Quarter-to-Quarter and all about the sale. Delivery is patchy.

Mikey's rolling without a CTO (no thought leadership/no innovation/no strategic conversations) and trying to sell commodity tech at top dollar prices while at the same time advocating an 20:80 offshore mix and bagging the Indian pure plays.

And internally - ad-hoc processes, bureaucracy everywhere. No wonder the net margin is so skinny,

The simplification program hasn't done anything of note.

Anyone who's nose isn't in the trough and gives a sh–, are both petrified of and vilified by the entrenched sales led (and incompetent) management.

I feel for Mikey - I think he genuinely is trying to make a difference but he needs to take a flamethrower to the legacy Mikey L senior and middle management, drop the exec rem and tell the market he's rebuilding from the bottom up.

He's delusional if he thinks anything material has really changed in the past year - still the same Mikey L b—s— up the chain and just plain old sh– down the chain.

Instead of asking us what f*cking color logo we want - why not ask the people who make the dollars who's incompetent, and who's dead wood in the management tree. Watch the bottom line and moral pick up.

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Post ID: @dppd+1854wGG9

These middle managers waste everyone time, just blockers, sooner a few layers are removed the company will run smoother.

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Post ID: @9qls+1854wGG9

Just needed a P.O. approved in budget. Our L3 was given full delegated authority to approve. Vendor already in the system. L3 approved in 24 hours. Took 5 weeks of internal systems and countless middle managers that still THINK they have the delegated authority to finally get the P.O. created.

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Post ID: @9zwg+1854wGG9

Were a digital company! There is no reason to work in an office unless it's in a Data Center where you need to physical touch the equipment. The sooner management understands this the better. Our kids are all learning remotely , so why can't we work that way too!

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Post ID: @5vwd+1854wGG9

D: @2rmo+1854wGG9 - agree completely and would transform the company completely but unlikely to happen as middle management will always seek to blame others for their mistakes and get rid of the technical people first before putting themselves in the line of redundancies

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Post ID: @2cur+1854wGG9

Yep the summary is too many management layers so the middle to lower management twist and delay things running it like their little empires.

Sal get rid of 3 layers and it will stop the blockers from their former lawrie glory days and a bunch of them seem to miss every round of redundancy as they are in a old boys and girls network so just do a merry round each time.

They are useless and superfluous chop them Mike S.

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Post ID: @2rmo+1854wGG9

There were two rounds of redundancies recently which were supposed to get rid of the excess middle-management.

Because the people at the top who sent that order out did not specify that the people to go should be "middle management", of course, they all just rolled it straight downhill to the engineers at the bottom. Some of our teams lost 50% of their skilled tech staff, working on brand new tech to our major competitors because the middle management saw an opportunity to save their own assess.

As for people saying that Sal is doing a good job and it's other people's fault - he is ultimately in charge, and if people aren't being held to account, then that's on him I'm afraid, and he should not be getting a bonus.

This company is too slow, too old in it's ways of working, and destined for the bin.

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Post ID: @1dhq+1854wGG9

Agree with OP - there's far too many middle management in the company - Get rid of all PEOPLE MANAGERS, your manager should be your functional manager that know what your doing. If you have a managers title and no one reports to you, your not a manager and shouldn't get managers pay scale!

Look at the Org chart on workday , so many managers and no direct reports

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Post ID: @hmi+1854wGG9

Agree with OP - there's far too many middle management in the company - really not all that good - bad in many instances - yes and blab men unsuitable for any sort of IT company.

They don't know what they doing, don't understand the customers and dump more work on to their hardworking grunts on the ground and bully them to do the work or else.

Sal seems like he's trying to turn things around but he needs to cut out ineffectual middle management and various duplicated layers, also employee middle management on short term employment contracts where every 2 years they need to re-apply for their roles with suitable feedback from their employees and customers to decide on whether they should keep their job or be fired.

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Post ID: @iwy+1854wGG9

I've had things that a middle manager wont approve, they sit on them for days and then approve eventually after numerous chases. That's nothing to do with systems thats just poor.

As for the offices I agree how many times does Mike S have to make it clear to them the new normal is remote, on the last call he even made it clear his going to downsize the real estate but they still not listening. Agree they need to move on from the Lawrie era thinking think they need some soft skill and management training to bring them upto speed.

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Post ID: @yck+1854wGG9

It's not the middle management that is blocking. It's the internal systems and approval processes which have not all been changed. Some have but not all and not in all countries and internal companies. Until the changes come from the top they function as they were. Middle management and employees are then left banging their heads. It has gotten much better but there is still work to do.

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