Thread regarding Whiting Petroleum Corp. layoffs

Why do people stay?

Reading these posts it's obvious that so many of you despise your jobs. If that's the case, why don't you quit? Nobody is forcing you to be here. I like my job. I like having a job when the economy is far from ideal. But if I didn't, nothing could keep me here. So I'm genuinely interested to know why you'd stay if you hate your job?

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Post ID: @OP+197a2Y8y

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Uh oh what happened did they send out a email thread. Telling you all big brother is watching you, so you better knock your sh– off? I’m sure you have so much to say, I can only imagine what it would be like if everyone knew about this thread. Would be interesting to see how many more feel about things. I thought it was interesting to see still employees people comment. As ex laid off ones that shows the feelings are mutual inside and outside. Even when you are outside and bring up the whiting name all you hear is , fu$& that place. I wouldn’t work there for no amount of money.

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Post ID: @3jdm+197a2Y8y

I agree with you there. Taking the logic to the extreme is ridiculous. But it makes sense if you are looking at from their perspective on the small scale and how it plays out in reality. Should they bend over backwards to make the grunts happy or keep plugging away and few that fall away can be replaced.?

In the boom days employee satisfaction mattered because you needed warm bodies just to get the work done. If employees didn’t like it, they could jump to another company easy. It’s not the boom days anymore. Priorities have shifted.

Culture matters but is not at the top of the list of priorities for a company barely sc-aping by. Culture-first is a modern idea pushed by ESG loving HR hacks. There is no room for altruism in survival mode.

They can manage the trickle. The only thing that would change that is if people quit in mass numbers. No one has the courage to do that. Everyone here keeps saying how trapped they are is proof. Management knows this. They know the risk of a mass walk out is low. Hence no incentive to change. Costs for training new employees is a drop in the bucket compared to keeping the machine running. As long as the wheels turn, that’s all that matters.

As employees we have a choice to eat the c-ap sandwich or chose to starve. so grab a bottle of ketchup and hold out for higher oil prices and they will start caring again.

Complain about it on here if you want. Just know it’s a futile effort.

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Post ID: @1xkw+197a2Y8y

@1idd+197a2Y8y With this logic, management should fire everyone and bring on "the next person in line", because supposedly they will be better and happier. Don't forget - hiring and training new employees has a price tag too, so it's actually more profitable to have existing employees perform well. So yeah, culture matters because it also has a dollar sign attached to it. Management that doesn't recognize it is delusional, and I don't think we are the case. Another question is, what they are gonna do about it.

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Post ID: @1gff+197a2Y8y

And do you think with that mind set it’s going to help employees attitude and help build a stronger company? No it will give less performance, more bad attitude and people that don’t give a sh– if the company profits or not. They just want someone else to come in and take over or see this place fail. They want failure so the ranking ups go down with the ship. No on cares about anything except themselves at this point, so keep on playing with us and see what it gets you.

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Post ID: @1djo+197a2Y8y

I don’t think anyone high up cares. There is no incentive to. With all the unemployed people out there now looking for work, who cares if a few disgruntled employees quit. Everyone left is easily replaceable by someone outside who is probably better.

I will never understand the mindset that it’s somehow someone else’s job to provide you satisfaction in you work life.

Sure the culture stinks. I’ve seen worse. Got two choices. Get over it and do your job or quit. I know it’s hard to come to terms with the fact that the only person keeping you here is you. No will care if you quit. Next man/woman up. There is a line of people waiting to take your spot.

Those left here are not dedicated employees. They are mercenaries at this point. Wasn’t always this way but any company who had the last 3years like we have had would be in the same place too.

Oil and gas right now is not about thriving. It’s about surviving. Any company who worries more about their culture than their bottom line won’t survive. Any executive who thinks culture is more important, should be run off right way. It’s that kind of feel-goodie nonsense from Brad that got us in this mess. So yea, the c suite probably doesn’t care about this one bit and shouldn’t.

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Post ID: @1idd+197a2Y8y

Does someone on the inside care to elaborate? Those of us in the last RIF are watching this thread. It's good entertainment, but we are sad for our comrades left behind. Is management finally paying attention to how people feel or are they just giving out spankings? Or is HR going to give a training to tell everyone how bad it is to be negative about your company. I can only imagine what that company wide email will say. There was always strong language used by a certain VP that objectors must be thrown from the ship. Conform or die.

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Post ID: @1vmq+197a2Y8y

Uhh ohh did someone get their Pepe slapped, they must have come down on some guys, told everyone in house to shut the f— up . Guess they even have control over that. Won’t even let us speak our mind. Ahh let the pole smokers breed .

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Post ID: @1hpf+197a2Y8y

If you read one of the other posts, the good skiers succeed. Just asks “blisters”. They’re all cut from the same cloth.

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Post ID: @1ewe+197a2Y8y

Probably the best thing said for sure, a lot of frustration and lashing out and it’s not the job at all we love what we do, just not the people running us was the best said. A lot of people in that office that got there I have no clue. Good golfers I guess.

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Post ID: @1zzm+197a2Y8y

I don't think we despise our jobs. The work is still rewarding, but we just have too much of it. We despise the worthless a–holes they keep moving up the ladder. Our leadership is terrible. They pretend to care, but its all a front. They are greedy f—s who keep promoting people who fit their same mold. Most of us hope that a better company buys us so we can keep our jobs but get rid of all the dead weight up top. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

I guess we'll see what the earnings report says.... my guess is that it will be less than impressive and stock price will continue to slide. As soon as our market cap gets below $600MM again, we're an easy target. Somebody please buy us.

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Post ID: @1grx+197a2Y8y

Wouldn’t you have any concerns about your employees as a manager or as the executive sit here reading and responding to these comments? This just shows how you really feel about us, so this is just a red flag that you are ready to bail on us and don’t give a f—. This unfortunately won’t affect you as it will us. This also shows the weakness in the HR dept. to not reach out in defense of its employees, is what they are supposed to be here for. Well you don’t want to support us then you can bet word will spread quickly and you will see a complete change of forces. Worse than already in effect, so I personally will s— it up pretend things are great, reap the benefits and great pay for a lazy a– effort I will give you back. Thank you for your help.

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Post ID: @wvi+197a2Y8y

Your a f—in douche bag no wonder we hate this place. Guess I will s— up the big bucks and freebies and shut up.

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Post ID: @udf+197a2Y8y

I understand that you are miserable, but what are we exactly talking about ( respect).
I don't think that McDonald's employees mentioned in the previous post are exactly skipping out of joy from the amount of respect they are getting.
Where is that greener grass you have in mind? Other industries? Other O&G companies?
I haven't experienced open disrespect from anyone. More work with fewer people - for sure, but the same applies to all of the teams. ( even outside of the org).
The forum is here thought - it is free so vent away!

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Post ID: @kzh+197a2Y8y

Shouldn’t it be up to the executive people to come to a solution why we are upset and why we are venting on here in private. We can’t go to HR, we can’t speak in open forum. So geez let’s find out what we can do to fix it. We can’t possibly cost that much. How about putting an open form on here what do you want? I know I didn’t go to the Brad Holly institute of how to take care of lower class citizens but here is a start. How about treating us with respect, how about a little give with all the take. Damn that’s all you do is dump more c-ap on our shoulders and take away. How do you expect people to respond.

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Post ID: @wim+197a2Y8y

Well, if this website has been around for many years, it probably has a point, huh?
Some complain, some gossip, some watch. It depends.

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Post ID: @wzt+197a2Y8y

Lol - not an executive here ( not even a director). Still don't understand the concept of whining when you have a choice to change things around. What is the point of posting things here? Venting? Is that it?

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Post ID: @fnw+197a2Y8y

Everyone's journey is different, and who are you to decide who -d-e-s-e-r-v-e-s- this job at this point of time? You ain't God. Take care of your own business, and let others live their own life and make mistakes. It's called boundaries.
And take the crown off. I mean it in the nicest way possible.

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Post ID: @ric+197a2Y8y

Happiness is something that is inside every person. It is rarely dependent on what other people/companies do. Everyone can either stress about things they do not control or choose to flex. You are the one who decided to work here. If you don't like the environment you have options. If you are marketable then you have a choice to go somewhere else, if not - you have a choice to just quit and stay home.
Nowadays, there are plenty of folks looking for a job, just look at the people let go after all the M&A activity in O&G. If you don't need or want this job let other people fill in.

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Post ID: @sep+197a2Y8y

Good for you, really! I'm genuinely happy for ya. Now, shift your internal locus of control to external focus on others.
It took me two years and countless interviews to figure out what the next step is. Transitioning is not easy, and being grateful for having a job does not equal to being happy, especially in a toxic [industry] environment, on top of WFH. It is not an excuse, it is "everyone's journey is different". Food for thought.

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