Thread regarding Ford layoffs

racial equity

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2021/04/29/ford-angela-henderson-racism/4870616001/

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Post ID: @OP+1aBhAloC

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Maybe Henry should have sold the company before he retired. His legacy is diametrically opposed to his values.

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Post ID: @dwai+1aBhAloC

Ford Motors used to be considered a good quality Automotive Company. The new Ford motto should be we ain’t broke .......we woke.....so buy a Ford.

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Post ID: @7jdp+1aBhAloC

Here is the thing there is and always has been a good ole boys club at Ford that band together and ensure that those who are not one of them or doing their bidding do not rise (doing bidding = paying amble homage, stomping on and knifing non-members and ensuring only members are given vis/kidos)

To counteract the good ole boys club other groups of people band together and act just like the good ole boys club within their spheres of influence, anyone with eyes, ears and a wee bit of grey matter can spot them. There are some Asian “clubs”, Indian “clubs”, women “clubs”, etc.

The problem is all of the people who were promoted based on dirty tricks from their respective clubs end up in positions where they are all playing amplified dirty pool as they are all competing with each other and none have appropriate skills for the positions. They are expecting to have a team doing their dirty work for them as before, but now find they are expected to go the battle alone and also do battle for club members.

Since these people are incapable of doing their job they tend to work with other “leaders” at their level to oust any of the “leaders” at their level who are competent and who won’t play dirty pool. They do this by conducting smear campaigns using the members of their respective clubs.

Have watched this for close to 30 years. I chose to focus on skills and being competent and refused to play dirty tricks. I will never be promoted past technical LL6, but I am good with that. And no, I was not given any LL6 training or support when I was promoted.

Having some racial equity position to solve the problems is a waste of time and money.
The root cause is the Ford culture, it has nothing to do with race. It is all about power.
The way to solve the problem is to fire all the club members and retain the competent team players. Then going forward, only hire competent team players.

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Post ID: @6wad+1aBhAloC

So an audit was done and they found certain groups were "suffering the most"... and went on to describe suffering as being PROMOTED to leadership positions but feeling like they weren't given enough help once they got there, Oh, boo hoo. Get real!

This is an example of why I drive a relatively new car with an automatic transmission that routinely misses gear on the highway. FOCUS ON QUALITY!

Let's be honest, with as much diversity, implicit bias, discrimination, etc that's pushed down the lower-level employees throats on a daily basis, take a trip over to the corporate leadership and board of director pages and look at the dozens of people at the VERY top of the company.

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Post ID: @6qii+1aBhAloC

@5ooi

When management can not solve large issues that are important, they turn smaller issues they believe they can solve into the important items.

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Post ID: @5qkg+1aBhAloC

I was going to say something cute and smart, but just don’t have the energy anymore. For a company that came close to dying just over 10 years ago and has started to die again, I find it simply amazing with all the problems they have they have time for this. Shouldn’t time and money be better spent in solving all the quality issues and production issues?

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Post ID: @5ooi+1aBhAloC

Here we can pause to quote conservative Scott Alexander, who wrote earlier this year, “Wokeness is a made-up mystery religion that college-educated people invented so they could feel superior to you.”

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/a-modest-proposal-for-republicans

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Post ID: @4grk+1aBhAloC

Lol @3iiv+1aBhAloC they must not of included engineering or IT in the numbers as those areas are predominately Indian males. Anyone who walked thru ITek, ITHQ* or engineering buildings would plainly see that white males were not 70 % of the staff.

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Post ID: @4eid+1aBhAloC

@3lqb+1aBhAloC

According to the Town Hall slide presentation last Thursday, 71% of the GSR through LL roles are white males. They plan to increase the proportion of women and minorities to 26% over the next few years. She stressed that they would only promote the best and brightest to achieve this goal. She also said that this was not a quota.

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Post ID: @3iiv+1aBhAloC

when i left ford's, i was the last caucasian-american in my group. that's not why i left, but who's the minority now? LOL!

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Post ID: @3lqb+1aBhAloC

In the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting on May 1 three hour Q&A session a question was asked if Berkshire would be putting out company wide reports on racial equity and climate change (paraphrased). His reply was (paraphrased) - no they would not being doing that, it was stupid to spend time creating reports and publicity - they spent time on things that made sense and focused on doing the right thing continually. Charlie Munger had a one line zinger concurring that no they would not be doing that.

Now those are people you can respect. They have a moral compass and follow it daily.
Unlike others who only follow it when it suits them, and only if the media is watching and publicizing their “good” deeds.

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Post ID: @3fbi+1aBhAloC

I too watched the town hall and the DEI portion was unsettling to say the least. I'm going to be frank, you can't force people into a job they don't want to do. The same reason I am not a school teacher or a registered nurse. Not demeaning those occupations, just something I never wanted to be as a man. The same reason why majority women (there always is a rare exception, but that does not constitute an inequity) choose not to be automotive mechanics, firefighters, plumbers, etc. I don't understand how removing interest, work ethic, and eagerness from the equation will fix anything.

I find it comical the spin of we need to staff our company to make products that satisfy the population. Newsflash, you build a POS and regardless of race, gender, se-ual orientation, religion, etc no one wants it. I guess that brings us together as a species, universal distaste for junk.

Do I deny there being inequity to the black community? Sure there is, but every hand out system ever constructed by government has not collectively improved it. An example I can give of something that worked is Henry Ford choosing to employ black line workers a hundred years ago. His methods were unorthodox (making people adhere to a standard for the pay) but collectively that template improved the lives of both black and white. The state of Michigan without people like him would just be an extension of the corn belt. It takes generations to build up a group of a people with each subsequent generation being lifted by the prior. That unfortunately is something that's not perfect in the black community because so many men step away from the role of father. A kid needs example from both parents, without that the cycle is doomed to repeat. Just giving hand outs or showing preferential treatment to that race will never fill that ho-e. Family is what got me to where I am today, starting out 100 years ago with non English speaking immigrants to today. Each prior generation pushing the next one on the value of higher of education. No government system can ever replace the benefit and effectiveness for what the family brings to society.

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Post ID: @2vmz+1aBhAloC

The Madness of Crowds explains the woke identity politics BS and Strange Death of Europe explains the cultures suicidally submitting to invasion of other cultures from the long post tyrrany train.

Both great books by author Douglas Murray.

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Post ID: @1pnl+1aBhAloC

keep taking screen shots because I bet there will be more posts deleted soon

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Post ID: @1jgo+1aBhAloC

Lots of comments deleted off this thread. I take screen shots of interesting posts in case they disappear later.

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Post ID: @1zhd+1aBhAloC

Ford going so Woke unfortunately. Sucks!

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Post ID: @1dkt+1aBhAloC

It is well known the family is deeply involved beyond the company.

The social justice cult has gone so far into extremism that reason and logic are actually vilified by them. They openly support mass censorship, mass vi-----e against innocent people, mob intimidation against the citizenry, they argue in favor of economic lockdowns and unconstitutional covid mandates, they support draconian vaccine passports, and they are partners with Big Tech corporations as well as globalists institutions like the Ford Foundation and the Open Society Foundation. They are diametrically opposed to everything that conservatives and lovers of liberty hold dear.
G O D save us all!

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Post ID: @1vst+1aBhAloC

I don't understand why corporate America believes it is their job to mold peoples minds as to how they believe we think about one another. I work for you and treat my co workers with respect and dignity. it is none of your business beyond that. Today they have WebEx's on implicit bias, driving while black and stereotypes. Just let me do what I am paid to do!

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Post ID: @ssw+1aBhAloC

Quote from the freep article
"When you have the opportunity to talk about those things that everyone thought was taboo, when we give the opportunity for people to have these conversations, you humanize your co-workers," Henderson said.

It's not taboo to talk about racism every politician, exec, and race hu----r is doing it.

What is taboo is to talk about black racism and if you talk about it you will be fired and destroyed.

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Post ID: @drq+1aBhAloC

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/04/black-supremacy-david-horowitz-and-john-perazzo/

black supremacy aka anti racism invades the corporate suites...

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Post ID: @mih+1aBhAloC

Did anyone watch the Town Hall this morning? The big focus was on "The Day of Understanding”. They showed a couple of slides on how the millennials value a company’s commitment to social values above all else. These days at Ford it seems it’s more important to talk about your feelings then to design and build quality mobility devices, sorry trucks and SUV’s.

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