Thread regarding Macy's Inc. layoffs

I'm a sales associate of 20 years. During this time, many things have changed at Macy's- much of which is beyond our control. There is no reason to pit one group of employees against another. We didn't give ourselves "surge pay" or whatever you want to call it. Nor did we sales associates decide that those who work "back of house" should not receive time-and-a-half for working 4-plus hours Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays during the month of May.
We are ALL overworked and underpaid. All of us.
My take is that Macy's is desperate and they are trying to buy time (extra pay during this month only) to rectify what they seem unable to figure out, ie. how to attract enough good help to manage customer business while offering peanuts and poor working conditions on the selling floor. Why do you think so many people are calling out?!
I take offense at the suggestion that all selling associates just hang at the register ringing up sales while those who work back of house are "doing all the work." Those of us who are on the front lines, dealing with an ever increasing angry customer base, are just as annoyed as you are. How do you think we feel about some of the recent hires who stare at their phones all day and never wander more than 10-feet from the register to help with back-up, fitting rooms, cleaning the floor, helping find fulfillment picks when needed, damaging out merchandise, making sure the merchandise on the floor is in the right spot and ticketed/marked down correctly, etc., let alone providing good customer service?
Do your think it helps morale to know that Macy's will keep a bad hire because it's at least someone with a pulse who is willing to show up while forcing the rest of us to not only do our jobs on the selling floor but theirs as well? We are sick of it.
Those of us who care about doing our best, when our best is no longer near good enough to deal with all the cr_p that we are forced to deal with (and have absolutely no control over) are beyond frustrated too. But we don't set policy. Jeff and senior management set policy.
We are all in this together. We are not creating the problem- we're just living with the fallout.

Our sales associates don't pick fulfillment any longer. Didn't take it seriously, would out things they couldn't find in 5 mins and didn't ask for help, were opening pick lists for the whole store, etc. Beauty still pull BOPS when needed but now a real Fulfillment colleague picks everything.

In many stores Fulfillment does 100% of the picks

I'm in sales in DFW and The OVM assigns us lists of fulfillment every single morning.

Yes we are the backbone. 8030s Recieving, Processing, Signing, Placing, Floor Moves, Recovery, Visual, FULFILLMENT. <= The big one right there. We make money for our stores. We get you your damn incentive. A little respect to them. After the pandemic no one in sales picks fulfillment anymore.

Its not whether one is better that the other. Everyone is essential . We are being underpaid.
We are being used....just say NO....the worse that can happen is unemployment...sc--w them .

“The prestige of being over payed for what little you do!!!!!!👍”

I am not sure what sn-t nose millennial runs your selling floor as a manager but let me tell you there are some of us red badges out here on the front lines with our colleagues. Placing merchandise doing markdowns doing floor moves pulling and pack fulfillment jumping in the truck and unloading it putting sensors on freight running it out to the floor and I could go on

Should I group you in with all the lazy selling floor associates? No...because it’s disrespectful and unfair....a few bad apples doesn’t spoil the whole orchard.

Because you have a horrible manager with an entitled work ethic and inflated salary does not mean all of us are this way.

Grow up.....

managers at any level in a store should be held in the same regard and entitled to the same payout structure of a bonus as hourly colleagues.

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You guys are fighting each other when the truth is if support or sales stopped showing up the stores would be scr*wed

8030 y'all are important but you guys aren't the ones causing problems this has nothing to do with macys playing favorites the sales floor is under staffed people are burnt out they've stopped working extra hours and half the time they call out this is just an incentive to get them to stop

This is in response to the 2 comments suggesting that 8030 does not work. What is it that you do? Stand behind a register and ring all day? You don’t assist customers, you don’t recover, you don’t pick fulfillment, you don’t do placement, you don’t do floor moves, you don’t process a truck, you don’t do markdowns or signing.

Seriously...anyone with a beating heart and two good hands to ring could work on the selling floor.

Fulfillment associates are the real ones getting shafted. They are not included and drive business more than any regular associate. Union times are coming. I’ve already heard that word in my store.

Sure you are 8030 markdowns etc done in timely manner!you are the backbone!Lol right!

The prestige of being over payed for what little you do!!!!!!👍

What about Salaried Managers? What do we get for showing up on our scheduled weekend Fri-Sun in May?

Time and a half is the same as overtime.

Surge pay? Why schedule so succently to budget for the jic? Once schedules are posted, many would have to decline because of a second job opportunity. The time and a half is enticing, but it’s not the same as overtime.

Lol if I know Macys management they will schedule 8030 people on weekends but not with the 8010 code because they "don't know" how to change the code and still expect you to do the work, y'all will still be shafted

Pick up a sales shift and get the pay.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who will not extend my shift for this additional pay. For my shifts that are at 7 hours & 30 minutes or more, our meal/break compliance requires that I have to clock out for an hour meal break. I'd rather eat something during my 15 minute break and go home after my short shift. I don't want to clock out for the required hour and sit around, just to go home later.

where is this memo on the portal? is this officially called "surge pay"?

What about AST?

1axq+1aC0gI7a no that's not how it works. For Fri-Sat-Sun in May, beginning on the 7th, 8010 shifts will pay time and one half premium pay once the colleague completes 4 hours of that shift. So if you have an 8 hr paid shift, you will get time and one half for 4 hours of it. Gjud us to help fill hours going unfilled because stores are struggling to hire, both because of the broken new HR system and lack of applications for jobs.

No, you are wrong. 8030 didn't get "shafted" with this program. If you are assigned an 8010 shift, you will get the premium pay for that shift once you hit 4 hours that day, just like the selling associates. So stop bellyaching. Out managers are already canvassing all colleagues to see if they want to work or work longer on these days, and it will all be in 8010. No one will be left in a 8030 shift unless it's a truck day, which might be a couple Fridays.

so if you work only friday to sunday you and you work over time you get more is what your saying?