Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Did Ford ever care about hard work?

I know that's not the case now but I'm curious if there was ever a time when hard work was rewarded instead of being punished by constantly increasing workload? I've been here for four years and I'm really getting tired of watching all the "yes-men" and "yes-women" climb their way up the ladder over our backs. Was it always like this?

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We care even more about making a good product!
This is a darn good company that people should be proud to work for. For God's sake. This is Ford Motor Company. Yes, the Ford family owns it. It is Ford Motor Company. It was formed by the will of one person. Henry Ford. There is no General motors. There is no Chrysler .. or anything - actually a company that sounds like an infusion therapy - Stelantis - seriously are you kidding. Tesla is a serious company as it is headed by someone with vision. We now have someone with Vision. Yeah, there is the distractions of the social improvement stuff, but you don't want to be on the wrong side of history if you can avoid it, and we can. Be Proud to Work at Ford Motor Company. BPWFMC!
Or leave.

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Post ID: @Ancy+1aC3Gubd

@tvnw+1aC3Gubd. Ok Jim, a little bored on the weekend? Vision? LMAO
Ford is a shadow of its former self. A large portion of the employees are essentially on corporate welfare. The company repeatedly fails at product launches and has massive warrantee costs.

  1. S. Jim please have your personal shopper buy you a suit that fits. It is embarrassing to have our CEO wearing a suit coat 3 sizes too small in pictures with the president.
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Post ID: @tpbv+1aC3Gubd

Yes Ford cares about hard work and dedication. We care even more about making a good product!
This is a darn good company that people should be proud to work for. For God's sake. This is Ford Motor Company. Yes, the Ford family owns it. It is Ford Motor Company. It was formed by the will of one person. Henry Ford. There is no General motors. There is no Chrysler .. or anything - actually a company that sounds like an infusion therapy - Stelantis - seriously are you kidding. Tesla is a serious company as it is headed by someone with vision. We now have someone with Vision. Yeah, there is the distractions of the social improvement stuff, but you don't want to be on the wrong side of history if you can avoid it, and we can. Be Proud to Work at Ford Motor Company. BPWFMC!
Or leave.

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Post ID: @tvnw+1aC3Gubd

Agree, renting out his head for free without a doubt!

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Post ID: @ttgr+1aC3Gubd

Seriously dude - that guy you thought you were getting back at - he owns your head!
Relax.

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Post ID: @iool+1aC3Gubd

@7wny+1aC3Gubd --
You made my day!!! You just crack me up! You sound like someone on a 6th grade cheerleading squad screaming "GOOOOO FORD" as you wave your p-m poms in the air. Too funny!

3 points from your Ford propaganda:
(1) You state the the current leader has Vision -- the only vision Jim has is to make some big bucks for himself. He has been at Ford for a long, long time playing the same games just like all the other current Ford leaders have done.

(2) You bring up the name of Ford Motor Company and Henry Ford - and then you disparage the names of other car companies. Really - what is that about? They all struggle for similar business reasons (except Tesla---not a Tesla fan, they just have a different story from the Big 3) -- it doesn't matter what the name of the company is. All the Big 3 companies lost their way long before the 70's and haven't recovered yet. The Big 3 have been on a death spiral for decades. And Henry Ford has been gone for a long time. And based upon his history, I don't think he would be pleased one bit with the current state of how Ford Motor Company is being run. I think if he was here right now - he would fire the vast majority of "leaders" at Ford including his own family in order to produce a product that didn't have recalls every other week! And I don't think he would care for cheerleaders either!

(3) You write about being on the wrong side of history --- it is very sad that people like you thing the "right" side of history is creating a whole new version of racism/discrimination (against all current non people of color) - even going so far as creating entire propaganda programs in our schools and businesses, re-writing history (the 1619 project for example) to fit you narratives, etc. I guess being on the right side of history is talking/constantly saying the words "science and data", but not allowing any opposing viewpoints to be heard or debated. I guess being on the right side of history is being part of a political game mis-using science to get their agenda implemented (climate change is a fact because they say so, not because of science and data.) The entire process of creating a hypothesis and trying to disprove it has been entirely erased because of people like you doing the "Right" thing). Who needs that "Scientific Method" we all (before the millennials I guess) learned about in grade school. Creating hypothesis', doing experiments, etc. was such an old school methodology, plus it was actual work. The "Right" side/thing/cause just bypasses the entire scientific method and tells us all we have to believe or be "cancelled" by them. Apparently, according to you, it is a lot better to just have politicians tell us they can see/feel the climate being changed, and if anyone doesn't agree with them, then they are "Neanderthals, deplorables, etc. I guess being on the right side of history is only doing something about harassment (all types) when it fits a business or political agenda. And then all our Ford leaders do is make all the rest of us take new training seminar/program, but never fix the root cause of the problem (for example - see other posts about Chicago Assembly plant). I guess being on the right side of history means not hiring/keeping people based upon character, skill, and talent but on the color of their skin, gender identity, or se-ual orientation. I don't think Ford cares one bit about doing the "Right" thing and being on the right side of history. It just wants to follow the crowd because it is "easier" for them to do so!

And then you tell people to "leave" if they don't like it. Only a true Ford leader would make such a statement!!! Of course, why would a Ford leader/cheerleader/person on the "right" side of history like yourself want to keep a bunch of employees that actually want a better company, don't want to play all your silly games, just want to perform productive work, and design/build great products?

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Post ID: @djqw+1aC3Gubd

Ford Chicago Asy Plant operates with the South Side style makes Barry Soetoro, Al Capone, Saul Alinsky, and Hillary Rodham proud.

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Post ID: @8gas+1aC3Gubd

@7wny+1aC3Gubd Ford is already consistently on the wrong side of the fence.
Witness 30+ years of unchecked discrimination and harassment. Chicago plant ring a bell?
The Ford family could of put an end to it at any time and chose not to.
Oh sure once the NYT published detailed accounts of the issues, the CEO made public statements and claimed the behavior would not be tolerated, yet it continued.
Big Jim could of hauled his behind to the plant and been on the floor for as long as I took to end it, but no, a blind eye is turned just as it is to other undesirable behaviors. Blame the victims, and slather on PR stories for the public.
Nice you can be proud to “work” at company with so much integrity and honor.
But then again water seeks its own level.

The last Ford family member who spoke of integrity being important was Edsel. His actions were in alignment with his words.

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Post ID: @7flp+1aC3Gubd

Yes Ford cares about hard work and dedication. We care even more about making a good product!
This is a darn good company that people should be proud to work for. For God's sake. This is Ford Motor Company. Yes, the Ford family owns it. It is Ford Motor Company. It was formed by the will of one person. Henry Ford. There is no General motors. There is no Chrysler .. or anything - actually a company that sounds like an infusion therapy - Stelantis - seriously are you kidding. Tesla is a serious company as it is headed by someone with vision. We now have someone with Vision. Yeah, there is the distractions of the social improvement stuff, but you don't want to be on the wrong side of history if you can avoid it, and we can. Be Proud to Work at Ford Motor Company. BPWFMC!
Or leave.

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Post ID: @7wny+1aC3Gubd

At one point there was a high percentage of salaried people actually working on meaningful tasks.
Now there is a low percentage of salaried people actually working on meaningful tasks.
Yet we have more salaried people.

Leadership seems to be hyped up on hopium alone. They convince each other that their false narratives are true. They pay for PR to attempt to convince others that their false narratives are true.

The salaried who actually want to do quality work and grow their skills jump off of the sinking ship.

The autoextremist is surely talking about Ford leadership having the dreaded assumption disease
http://www.autoextremist.com/

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Post ID: @7aey+1aC3Gubd

Hard work is not woke.

Going to an exclusive school to get brainwashed and learn it's important to follow the crowd and believe the woke religions lies is what corporate HR and execs care about more than reality.

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Post ID: @3jck+1aC3Gubd

I think the FCG program is a source contributing to bad behavior. The program was designed to lure some of the better students from top university programs. The promise seems to be if they stick with Ford and are loyal, hard working employees who look the part and don't make waves they stand a good chance of making LL4.

LL4's can make $400k+ per year with bonuses. They get 3+3 when they retire, three years salary and additional three years seniority.

So Ford is paying smart people to be loyal yes-men if they can stomach it. I've heard the Launch director and former VP of quality say they are paid to do what they are told. My take is they are in it purely for personal gain. Not everyone could do this but those senior "leaders" think more money can bring them happiness.

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Post ID: @2pam+1aC3Gubd

As a supervisor, it's important to light a fire under the GSR, since they are keeping the profit-machine stoked. That is the reason they exist. That is their purpose. The supervisor builds the GSR into a driven and motivated force to achieve profits.

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Post ID: @jpw+1aC3Gubd

Think about it....it has been the same Ford family calling the shots for decades. Do you really think things are so much different today than they were 30 plus years ago. You are just there right now living it in real time. You see something call real competition came after the 70's. The Japanese brought better products to the USA. So the Big 3 challenged them to build factories here and see if they could still give the customer a better product -- and the Japanese did. So Ford (which includes all the useless type of ladder climbers you are asking about) changed gears 25 years ago. Ford blamed all their problems on their internal parts organization for years. Then they spun it off and then blamed the suppliers. The suppliers diversified their customer base and told Ford behind closed doors to pack sand --- their other customers aren't having the same issues. But the company culture (the slackers, the game players, the yes men and now women) and the Ford family has stayed the same since before the 70's. You see the root cause of the company systemic failure has always been there. There is just nobody left to blame so good employees like yourself are taking the brunt of it (and getting more work to do). The only thing that truly changes is the different failures they bring in every few years to be the CEO. Do you think anybody with (even marginal) intelligence would bring in a furniture guy to run a car company? Who do you think makes these decisions --- the same Ford family that has been making the decisions for decades. Don't worry, things will get better when they put the Ford family niece and nephew on the board of directors this year. Billy Ford has been there forever; it can only get better with more Ford family members.

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