Thread regarding IBM layoffs

LEGAL???

I'm hearing about many US based employees who are not currently in GTS but are being forced out of their role and being moved to kyndryl. They cannot apply for any open positions in IBM and if they don't accept the transfer, they will be eliminated. IS THIS LEGAL???

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Post ID: @OP+1aCvlFEX

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Was more or less forced into a new job that I just started 3 weeks ago. Was just told yesterday, I’m picked for Kyndryl. I’m in CIO. Such nonsense. I would’ve never moved if I knew it was to have someone there to move over. Safe to say I’m starting to look for other options.

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Post ID: @8waz+1aCvlFEX

Absolutely kyndryl is a better option.
Going all in on cloud when you're not considered a real contender? not

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Post ID: @3ess+1aCvlFEX

At this time, Kyndryl may be a better option.

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Post ID: @3sin+1aCvlFEX

Is it legal to hire your spouse?
Seems to be a conflict of interest.
BCG says to report such cases.

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Post ID: @1bks+1aCvlFEX

If you are in kyndryl and in the US, then you won’t have a job soon. All the decision makers are in India or from India. Indians only hire Indians.

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Post ID: @1guz+1aCvlFEX

Check your state laws.

Might be illegal in some states. For example, Montana is completely not an "at will" state and some other states might have exceptions (at the very least, they might be forced to say that you were laid off instead of terminated if you refuse to go to Kyndryl).

I'd say contact a lawyer who is well versed in state and federal employment laws.

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Post ID: @1bgy+1aCvlFEX

IBM is over stuffing Kyndryl. This is straight out of the Intel server to Lenovo play book. IBM will pay Kyndryl to handle the layoff’s of the overstuff. When IBM used this play with Lenovo, attrition went up, thus lowering layoff payments. Please note almost every business unit will be involved in the overstuff. Servers (Power cloud and lab services including TSS), GBS (almost all non-strategic, non-Redhat legacy services) and Cognitive (legacy overlapping SW offerings vs Redhat, plus some labor intensive legacy offerings (Parts of TPP). If it’s not mainframe related, or Redhat related, IBM is exiting it.

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Post ID: @1qyh+1aCvlFEX

In Canada that might be considered constructive dismissal, which is the same as layoff, but you'd need to consult a lawyer. If being laid off doesn't come with significant benefits, then making the legal case would not be worthwhile.

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Post ID: @1bwn+1aCvlFEX

I'm one of those people. Came out of nowhere. I'll probably look for something else

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