Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

I loved all my jobs with Verizon, but after 35 years (mostly Management) I felt I had no option but to take VSP, since I was in what the Leadership likes to call the 'Dying End' of the business (i.e. Landline) with no opportunities given to me to learn any other part of the business.

I briefly came back as a Contractor for an LOB I never worked in. Was supposed to be a 6 month gig....I left after 3 months because I couldn't stand it. So horrific. No one had a clue what they were doing, and they were not open to my suggestions on how to make things better.

Then, in the middle of a pandemic....I was hired by a competitor for almost the same rate it took me to get after 35 yrs. with Vz. Great benefits. Yes, vacation/paid time off is less than I am used to, but it works. Best of all, they appreciate my experience and most of the people I work directly with are my (old) age!

My point is, don't be afraid to leave because you think you can't find your way somewhere else. You can.

And by the way...I have worked from home for over 25 years. Would have been a deal breaker if my new Company didn't allow it.

Keep the faith :)

Run, keep your peace of mind. I spent 26 years with the company and was working as hard as any of the past years, yet received the package. Had at least 4 opportunities to return as contractor for 50+ hour wage, and rejected their offers. The experience working people that built the brand are gone, as Verizon continues to fall. Very sad to see. Their customer support overseas needs a big tsunami to 'restart in USA'. MVGA

I’m retired. I come back to this board basically to watch the pain.
But... your missive strikes a tone that the entire company hears.

Yes. It is toxic. You will never know how toxic until you leave, and when you turn to look, you will be amazed and humbled by your time there. The negativity, the laziness, the simple don’t give a fu-k attitude, it wears on you as if you were being dragged across sandpaper.

Take their money, put in for extra, and deny to yourself you work there. It works temporarily. But when you leave, you’ll clearly see how ridiculous it all is.
I had 30 years, started with NY Tel. I saw it when it was great. Hasn’t been great since Bell Atlantic. Southern thinking ruins most everything. Case in point... look around you.

Take a letter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntytnSEP_bw

I was one of the 10% who pushed the button and wasn’t given the package. I’m still slightly bitter when the topic comes up. My director told me (in our one and only phone call) that I was “too important to the business” to let leave. I explained my reasons for volunteering (work/life balance, longs hours) he said my issues would be addressed and guess what? Dude headed off for his next promotion and never heard from him again.

The vote means nothing , they are playing you for a fool and you are falling for it hook line and sinker . There is zero chance work from home becomes permanent .

False, we just did a vote in my local and the members voted 95% in favor of permanent work from home.

The work from home is ending for sure Oct 1st , the union does not want it and is just acting like they do to pacify members . This is fact sorry to break the bad news .

Truth - happy I got out

I had my hand up the last time, I was one of those deemed essential enough not to be allowed to take the package. Now instead of three people we have the equivalent of 1.5 and we have brought in higher margin business, new sales by the tens of millions, and yet not a soul that did this work was promoted.

Since Jan 1, I have wished I took that VSP. Its been complete h@ll. Our org is crumbling run by id--ts and I too have a boss that's too busy for us and a team I know nothing about, like the other poster said if I am forced back in an office to work with people that aren't even in my org I will have to walk.

The best thing that Verizon ever gave me was work from home! It made me realize how much I never want to see an office again. Water cooler gossip, union scaring members, pointless meetings about pointless things, etc, etc. If I go back to an office full time, I’m leaving the company for good.

when the vp admitted the rumored vsp was a reality, I put the bridge on mute and exclaimed to my peers that there really is a jesus.

For me the grass is definitely greener on the other side. I struggled after taking the package wondering whether I did what was best for my family. Was I screwing my family by my selfishness to leave a job I had loved but a boss that was an id--t with a ceo that shouldn't even be managing a whataburger? A job where $40 an hour was not near enough for the mental anquish I had to endure everyday. But eventually the sun came out and i realized that vz will never value another employee the way they did in the early days and that it's not the only game in town. I dont make quite as much now with the uncarrier but I can tell you i dont care. They are head and shoulders better than vz the way they take care of their people. If you ever get the chance to jump ship take it. You may not make as much money but you may just live a longer happier life. Life is too short to let them steal your physical and mental health. Vz wont be the market leader for many more years. They're making to many mistakes.

@mqw security is a joke, I busted my hump for them on a case and when I was deposed I saw the security guy had WRITTEN ME UP, never trust them or try and help these toads

I was abused by one manager after another for 24 years despite doing the bulk of the work, right before the package was announced it was determined that I would do the work for three additional states AND I WOULD NOT BE PROMOTED, I took the package the next day, the director of course started to scramble and demanded my work process documentation which I gladly provided, I have not thought twice about this company since December 2018, I just come here for the laughs, sorry

That is a great article. And spot on. Too bad. Verizon Wireless was a great company until it merged with Verizon Communications. You can clearly see now how everything deteriorated to trash after the merger. Lowell destroyed the company with that awful deal.

When you seek out a man to put at the helm of a thriving business who basically sank another tech company, you have to question the intent. Would this be how you sustain or grow a company?

In wireline IT, we had been swimming against the tide for years with RIFs twice a year and on a few occasions three times a year. Then, McKinsey and Co. was hired by Hans to deliver the tsunami with their outsource rebadging employees scheme that was rushed and delayed by three months. When I look back, IT has suffered from a succession of failed leadership starting with Majid Nanderkhandy, Roger Gurnani, Judy Spitz, Ajay Wraghray, Vic Bhagat, Shankar Arumugavelu, and Kyle Malady. Plus Hans Vestberg set the direction to outsource as much of IT as possible. Also, the Verizon India experience has not worked out as planned despite several restarts and just created more overhead and silos. The company should have implemented offshore statements of work as needed.

Stop crying if you don't like it and its so bad leave . I am sick of people crying when you can leave anytime you want , its not a prison .

Pfft, the whole of security wasn't allowed to take the package unless your job was affected by the reorgs.

Well said, and 100% agree. I just wish I had been offered the package, instead of a retention agreement. I had hopes that the ship was turning to the future and I was a key part of it. Instead, I struggle everyday to keep my customers happy and not get fired by them.

You are not incorrect